Artistic Or coptistic

[Gameglitch]

My question is are you Artistic or Coptistic ?

I know that Coptistic is not really a word but what it means is do you copy from a source or do you draw from your own mind/ imagination.

Let me run it down into point form

Artistic

-Imaginative
-Creative
-Little or no references
-Good drawing skills

Coptistic

-Heavily use references
-Good drawing skills
-May have low amount of creativity/ Imagination

Now between the two, the only real similarity is that they can both draw well. While one struggles in drawing from their mind, expressing their inner thoughts, the other does not. I know there is some exception to the rule as some draw portraits/ life drawings, and to order to do a good portrait one has to look at something to get the right look of the person. So drawing from a photo still counts as Coptistic but to a lesser extent as the artist has to intrepid what is real, into a drawing. Where drawing from a drawing is pure Coptistic

As we all know that roughly 80-90% of this whole site would slide into the Coptistic end, NOT to say it dont take some skill to be able to draw something free handed from a source but its just that much harder to draw from ones own mind, but even I use references along with many other people, so I guess there is no real true 100% artist out there (unless you count modern art like paint splatter as 100% artistic )

But to give a simple answer back, just use this scale 1 being Artistic and 10 being "Coptistic"



Artistic 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10Coptistic


For me I Guess would fall in the 8 or 9 range. As I mostly draw from photos, not often do I draw from my imagination.

But since there is no real word as "Coptistic" I guess if someone can draw well then they have some form of artistic ability.

[SoaringKitty]

I'd give myself a 3 or 4. I tend to use the same pose over and over.

[fallenangel]

Both, can't rate myself on a scale 'cause I do a lot of different things.

But there is no overall distinction because anyone doing realism of any kind should be using references, and certainly all the successful and talented ones do. People like Linda Bergkvist and Kay Allen who do fantasy realism still use tons and tons of reference because it's impossible to know how everything looks from every angle in every lighting condition.

Those who don't use reference almost always have glaring errors in their pictures, realistic or not.

Copying directly...meh. I amuse myself with it, but it's not most of what I do.

Most people on the site are young and still learning, and you learn from copying. Learning from your imagination leads to bad habits and stagnation.
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[jhonenfreak]

I have pictures that range from either a 10 to about a 3 or 4. (Don't count my old crap-ass screen cap redraws. I don't consider those art anyway.)

Some of my art is purly original (no reference, story behind it, etc...) while others were drawn using a reference picture and changed only slightly.
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[KatWarrior]

I'll go with two or three. More often than not I use my own ideas. I actually suck at copying drawings. XD I only copy when I'm trying to learn how to do a new character/object. Once I get the hang of it, I do with without reference. Granted, sometimes I have to use a reference when I'm working with a dificult angle, but that's just how it goes.
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[Beatlechick90]

Just because you use references doesn't mean you don't have any imagination. That's stupid.

I use references often but I also do stuff freehand. When I do freehand it doesnt come out the way I wanted to dso I often use referneces and put my own touches in. Just because someone copies does not make them "unartistic".

Most of my drawings are portraits anyway so this doesn't really apply to me, but I just think this is dumb.
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[Stratadrake]

I'd probably have to give myself either a 2 or 3 -- very few references used, ever, and sometimes when I do use them it's only for color scheme and small details.

There are times, though, that when thinking about a pose, I do sort of to "act" it out a little. To get a feel for how it would look, what angle to best portray it from....
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[Touzoku-joou]

I'd put myself at 3.5-ish. I do use references, but I never duplicate a pose. And I only use references when I'm trying to learn a new character.

But I do have a pretty bland pose ability, so I do like to flip through books and find dynamic poses for inspiration and such.
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[Brianhjh]

I use photos mostly for inspirations, then again, my style is more of a realistic stream than other anime style, so I use references for little anotomy all the time, I'd say, 6.
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[infurno]

I've got a mess of original stuff. and i do use copieng sometimes. but nly to know what somthing looks like
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[1_4lvl]

I can be really artistic, but sometimes I need refferences for anatomy and such. Some of my better pieces lie somewhere in the grey area.

I do think that in order to inprove your artistic skills, you need to start with more coptistic exercises, like still lives or drawings from photos. Or at least, it's easyer to develope a technique and style from what you see before going on what you imagin.

With my most recent still life paintings(not yet posted) and even in some of my older ones, I took a rather artistic styleized spin on the mundane exercize of still lifes using my odd sense of color and my freer brush strokes.. It's just what I do.

[Ogrim_Doomhammer]

I would rate myself a 4.... because I do use references but i do it in a different way, I imagine something take a picture of me doing that and use that as reference and if I am drawing any manga characters then I photoshop their face into my picture and use it as reference. Is that "copistic"?
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[fallenangel]

People put too much stock in this vague "artistic" definition. Like there's some status for doing something 100% from your mind. All that means is that you're almost guaranteed to have easily fixed but constant flaws in your work.

Pick pretty much [i]any[/i] famous professional, especially big names that are constantly in demand, and most people would be shocked at their practices. There's a couple that are big names for movie posters and promotional material that requires exact likenesses of the actors. They trace. Not because they aren't capable of drawing an exact likeness, but because time is money, and they can trace a picture in 20 minutes vs draw it in two hours. Pretty much all working pros at the very least hire models and shoot their own references. Abstract is about the only genre with [i]no[/i] outside influence.

Reference is a tool, not a crutch. All I see when someone includes the comment "no reference" in their description is not "wow, aren't they talented", but all the stupid mistakes that could have been fixed in five minutes by looking for a picture of someone with their arm in that position.

One isn't better than the other, but I have a personal hate for the "no reference" people because they're digging themselves a hole and making horrible habits. Seeing a gallery with the same mistakes over and over because someone is too pig headed to do something that isn't their "profound vision, straight from my imagination" is ridiculous.
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[eidan_eishou]

[quote="Animemaster2334 (Lindsay)"] [quote="Brianhjh (St. Arsenic)"] I use photos mostly for inspirations, then again, my style is more of a realistic stream than other anime style, so I use references for little anotomy all the time, I'd say, 6. [/quote]
Despite the fact that you use a lot of photo referances I really like your style I don't see too much like it.
Your pictures are all very unique too. Much better concepts than all that anime fanart I see. You've always got something new and intereseting up :3 I think a six is a little low for you. [/quote]
Lindsay, we're not rating ourselves on a scale of one to ten, whe'er rating whether we're an original artist or not. The closer to ten, the less originatlity you have.

Which reminds me, I give myself a solid 9.5. I don't usually draw many original pictures, but mostly fanart and such.

[SilentSoul92]

lol. I give myself a 5. Somewhere in the middle.