Colouring With Pencil Crayons

[Beatlechick90]

Does anybody know how to do this without having the lines show up? Whenever I do it they are so visible and it kind of spoils the effect of the drawing (See: my Marilyn Monroe picture)
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[DG-sama]

First off darling provide a link to either your gallery or the picture itself. Most of the people on this site (myself included) are lazy. Not to many you will find actually want to waste the energy of going to the main site and using the search engine and stuff. Secondly what brand of pencils do you use? Crayola? Prismacolor? Both are different.
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[Beatlechick90]

Whoops. Bear with me, I'm still getting used to these forums. Here's the link to the picture: Clickety click
As for what type of pencil crayons I use, most often it's Crayola, but I'm happy to use whatever's lying around.
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[DG-sama]

Crayola huh? I haven't Crayola in a long time.. I fact I've only used them once in the past year I believe. Anyway I think my main suggestion would be to press down on the paper qwith the pencils a bit harder. I can see that you did very light shading. The harder you press the pencil the brighter and more vibrant the color will get. Sorry I can't really offer to much more in the way of help... prismacolors are my area of expertise.
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[Astronamymage]

If you really don't want to press down hard (with that technique, shading is achieved by using different shades of the same hue which means more pencils) then color in circles and that helps make the coloring job much more fluid.
*edit* I am talking about small circles with even pressure (just clarifying)
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[Fayore]

I've done a lot of work with pencil crayons. o_o;

Just that none of them are on FAC. XD

But anyways, make sure you only colour in one direction the entire way through, it keeps it clean and smooth looking, except for the hair, which you'll have to work a bit harder on: it's better to get a base colour (colour the entire thing so it looks flat) and then use variations of the colour (like since you used yellow, try darker/lighter tones, maybe a little bit of very light orange, too?) and draw the lines in the direction the hair is to go in. For the more shadowed parts (like the parts near the scalp), a little bit of light browns might look nice. Or to distinguish between the hairs, I guess just a darker yellow would work. (That's not a very interesting technique, though, if you ask me.)

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Okay, that wasn't the question. But yeah, if you want it to look smooth, then make sure you use the same pressure the entire time through, and it's all in the same direction. You could also do Miriam's circles instead, too.

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[Brianhjh]

Pencil crayons are one of the least cost-effective stuff on the market, let's compare...

$5 dollars of each medium will get you to fill XX pages with solid block of color...

(I'm remembering this... this isn't the actual statistic...)

Pencil crayon (prisma) 4 pages
Pastel (rembrandt) 8 pages
Marker (prisma) 5 pages
Watercolor (Cotman) 12 pages
Gouache (W&N) 11 pages
Acrylic (Galleria) 15+ pages
Oil (Winton) 13 pages

....


My art teacher is a nut. @_@
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[Fayore]

Cost effective? Who cares about that? What we're going for is what it looks like in the end. Besides, you can't deny pencil crayons its efficiency in that it doesn't require time to learn how to use them properly, as well as the fact that it doesn't require other things like a certain type of paper like watercolour paper or a heavier paper. :mellow:

It also depends on how you colour it: if I pressed really hard with my pencil crayons, then [i]maybe[/i] it's 4 pages, minimum. But if I colour with a lighter pressure, then it'll go for at least three times that, if not more. :/
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[Brianhjh]

kay, kay.

the matter of lasting longer if you press lighter goes for other mediums too. (well, not really for gouache, acrylic and oil, but you know what I mean)


colored pencils hurts your hands, especially when you're trying to fill large spaces.


thus art stix has been invented ... it sucks though, don't buy it, I bought a light blue one for the sky, but it's rather hard.



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[Fayore]

That's why you don't press hard, you make layers. And also, pressing hard for large spaces takes up too much time. Why do that when pressing hard just makes it look like you painted/used markers in the first place? :o

And what's an art stix? :huh:
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[Brianhjh]

prismacolor pencil lead in a form of a pastel.
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[Fayore]

Interesting. I think I'd prefer my pencil crayons, though. XD I still have to learn how to use my watercolour ones properly. XD
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[Stratadrake]

Why do people call them "pencil crayons" so much? :huh:

But anyway, I can sympathize. I spent years figuring out how to do "colored pencil" sketches instead of colored "pencil" sketches (note shifted emphasis).

I mean, in my earliest coled pencil sketches, I sketched out the whole scene in pencil and shaded it in, then layered the colored pencil on top. Guess what happened? The colored pencil kept mixing in with the pencil shading, resulting in very muddy colors.

Examples:
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-87477.html
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-148061.html

So, to improve the color quality, I started erasing the pencil shading from the drawing as I colored it in. This quickly revealed, why shade it in the first place when I'm just going to erase and color it in? After that my pencil WIP sketches were completely lineart (no shading), and I saved the shading for the colors.

During the shading, I'd typically use black or ebony to reinforce the sketch lines:
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-82610.html (note the claws/talons)

But despite the excellent, vivid color hues, this still had a tendency to muddy around the edges of the drawing, so I started experimenting with using [i]colors[/i] for the outlines instead of black:
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-83169.html (note the claws/talons)

And that, in turn, evolved into my current technique (note panels 'C' and 'D'):
http://www.fanart-central.net/pictures.php...15350&size=full

What to do: Completely erase the pencil lines from each area you color/shade in. That's right, I said ERASE those lines. Shading and all, it's gotta go. Layering colored tones on top of pencil just makes the pencil [i]more[/i] visible (not to mention more permanent), so to avoid the effect, just erase them before you color.

You can quickly replace the lost lines with colored pencil lines (of about the same shade as what you'll be using), that way you'll still have lines to guide you, but you won't have the black pencil lines showing through anymore.

Examples (though, rightly, I have too many to list ):
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-126898.html
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-129975.html
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