Should I Rp?

[Brianhjh]

I'm struggling through creative writing... I'm in Grade 11 English IB Class right now, and it's possibly the worst subject for me. (I'm getting better mark in French). The recommended reading hours everyday is two hours... Considering reading streetsigns and internet forums count, what they mean is about 45 minutes of independant reading a day (books).

Well, let me just get this out.


I've read about 10 English novels in my entire life. (6 of them being Harry Potter)




How am I still spelling things correctly and not using IM talk? that's because I read a lot of non fictions, biographies, history books, and wikipedia articles. Reading them is good for knowledge, but it doesn't help when I'm writing essays or anecdotes.


So I had an idea, why don't I RP? It involves creative writing, and I don't even need to get out of the FAC forums! :wub:

so, before I start, I want your comments on what and what I shouldn't do.

and also:

-Explain to me why Playwrite entrances were banned.
-Who are the Advanced RP'ers
-What kind of special punctuations are used.
-Can you use your pictures from FAC gallery to describe how your character looks like?
-How does an RP end.


and most importantly...

-Do you think that Role Playing helped with your writing skill? :huh:

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[VR_Jay]

If you are seriously looking to use RP to expand your verbal and reading skills, let me give you a word of warning: You are in for a frustration full of disappointment. 99.99999% of people on the RP threads don't know how to write worth a crap, much less spell correctly or even form a full coherent sentence. If you can get in that little nitch with the other good RPers, you might be able to last, but even then there is always the chance of a n00b running in to f**k it all up and drive you insane. Thats why I've kinda drifted away from the RP forum. I just can't stand all of the little annoying nooblings anymore, and the handful of good RPers just can't outweigh it.
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[Stratadrake]

[quote]-Explain to me why Playwrite entrances were banned.[/quote]
- Profile sheets don't fall under the categories of action, dialogue, narration, or even exposition. They're basically just an "infodump", a bunch of reference material.
- People would get lazy and just describe their character using pictures (which is the same reason why the attachment pane is disabled in the RP section).
- Encourages people to give away spoilers about their character.
- Discourages people to let their characters grow and evolve over the course of the RP, because they've already laid out and described every little molecule about them up front.

[quote]-Who are the Advanced RP'ers[/quote]
Advanced RP section is a subject of debate right now.

[quote]-What kind of special punctuations are used.[/quote]
None! We recommend plain old regular prose.

[quote]-Can you use your pictures from FAC gallery to describe how your character looks like?[/quote]
We'd rather you not, for the same reasons as profile sheets.

[quote]-How does an RP end.[/quote]
Most "GOOD" RP's end via a slow and painful death when the regular participants lose interest and stop posting in it.
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[DragonicFlames]

xD... Must I drag out all my infomation?

[quote]Roleplaying:

I have been roleplaying for a long time. So here's a few rules you know that I see happening every day. If your lazy ass don't want to read this, then don't b*tch when I kick your ass for doing stupid s**t in the online forums or on aol chats.

Some tips:

Moding: Moding is when one character forces another character to take a hit. This hit will probably be something that was not warranted and was not issued in the correct path.

For example:

Character 1: ::slashes sword at character 2, hits and kills character 2.::

This is a HUGE... no let me put up something a little bigger..HUGE No. You do this in any aol chat... no you do this ANYWHERE and you are immediately labeled an a**hole who doesn't know anything from s**t.

Now, say your character is in a fight, an actual agreed on fight with someone who has set terms and has placed a paragraph limit on forced hits. (Meaning that you have to go over the amount of posts in order to cause damage. ) These posts must include at least some aiming, air/wind pressure, force of the hit (meaning how much weigh has been put on the blade in order to tell how far in the blade will go.), and the character's movements in order to cause the blade into the other character.

For example:

Say that the post (meaning a paragraph of 5 lines if not more) limit is 4 and a half to allow a forced hit.

Character 2 (character 1 will always be played as the "newbie"):

:: Character 2 holds his/her blade at the ready. The other man/woman was standing in front of Character 2. His/her breaths were cold and icy as he glared down upon the fighting partner. It was rather chilly, which would push air into Character 2's face as he judged the distance towards Character 1. With a sigh, he started calculating his next move.:: (post 1)

:: Character 2 moved to the right, causing Character 1's eyes to follow (this may be typed for the characters are in a fight and after all where else would character 1's eyes be looking?) character 2's movements. Character 2 could see the glint in Character 1's eyes. Character 1 was confident that character 2 would not be able to gather the strength, the energy, the will to fight him/her. Character 1 had made a very sad mistake upon his/her judgment of character 2. Again, another blast of the air caught character 2 to close his eyes.:: (post 2)

(it was probably preset in the other post [ sometimes TB posts will over lap each other] that character 1 will charge character 2, as in stated post, character 1 will slash at character 2)

:: In this brief instant, Character 1 started to charge straight for character 2. Stepping back and to the side, character 2 caused Character 1's charge to be altered and slowed him down, just a fraction of an instant. Character 2 brought his/her own sword up and met Character 1's slash. Nearly having the blade crushed into his/her skull, placed character 2 into action mode. Character 2 bucked the blade of character 1's sword up, out of range of character 2's head.:: (post 3)

:: Character 2 thusly pushed the hilt of his sword into the exposed area of the chest of Character 1. Character 1 was pushed a few steps away from character 2. Having knocked some wind out of character 1. Character 2 Pulled his blade up in front of his chest, knowing too well that the next smack of Character 1's blade will be harder and full of rage. And so the next smack of character 1's blade nearly knocked character's 2 sword out of his/her hands. Nearly.:: (post 4)

:: Character 2 swung around and caught character 1 off guard to the right side. Cutting into the flesh, it was not very deep, but still enough to cause to bleeding. Character 2 was sure he nicked some of the muscle tissue there, which incased a series of important veins. If character 2 did not finished off character 1 quickly, character 1 would bleed to death. Character 2 pushed away and made sure that he was out of character 1's sword range.:: (Post 5)

See how that was much better than the first one? Interesting what you can do if you have some time and you actually thought about what the hell your doing.

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Godmoding: Is when you are either immortal and/or when you sat that you cannot die when a serious wound is inflicted upon. Character def. When playing a "god" like character or even a god him/herself.

(character def. will pop up from time to time, when it relates to a type of character)

For Example:

Character 1: :: Coughs, but looks up at character 2:: You think you can hurt me? I AM IMMORTAL! Impervious (word will probably not be used in a newbie's post, but I like it.. ) to death from small wounds.

Character 1 is obvious short in the times. This is where Character 2's owner would pull out the "void" card. The void card take place when someone has not stated in an entrance post that he or she is in an immortal race. Now immortal races are only allow to fight when it is just a spar between friends to test their abilities and not an actually. This "void" card may be used when a forced hit (moding) of any type happens if the moder (person who has moded) had not done a very good job of planting the forced hit. (meaning, just stated he hit the other person's character and that was that)

If character 1's owner does not accept the void card the match is ended. Because what is to stop character 1's owner from doing it again and again to let his character live. This means that character 2 has won, by default.

( let's say character 1's owner has accepted the "void" card)

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Powerplaying: when an character (such as character 2) is rped by someone other than the character's owner with out permission.

For example:

Character 1: :: Character 2's blow affected him little, but would slow him down. So Character 1 smiled, trying to cover up his pain. Character 2 then lowered his weapon and stepped closer to character 1 offering a peace treaty. But little did character 2 know that character 1 was not about to accept such a thing. with a flash of the blade, character 2 fell to the ground, headless.

::tsk tsk tsk.:: Character 1's owner is a bad little boy. Character 2's owner now claims the victory. For when ever someone else uses your character to kill it, it is an instant win to you. Because powerplaying is outlawed in the rping world and has become punishable but death to the powerplayer's characters. all of them.

Character 1's owner decides to apologize (which he wont in real life ) and starts up where he picked off, again for the second time.

Character 1: :: Falls on the ground, not having the strength to live and thusly dies from injures that he has sustained.::


and we all live happily ever after right?


WRONG

(FYI, the reason I did this in playwright format [ei: Character 1: <~~ ] was so that we understand whose post we are talking about. A good roleplayer would have followed that with out need for it, but since there are a few people who are here who aren't really that experienced, then I put that up there for their sake. )

Ghosting: Character def. when a character dies, a ghost may appear over the body, will sometimes haunt places or people.

For Example:


Character 1: :: He dies and turns into a ghost. This ghost hovers above his body. looking over to Character 2.::

The reason this is not allowed is:

1) Not everyone believes in ghosts.
2) It allows a character to live when it has been killed.
3) Defies the killer (not meant to be a bad term, but you know) the right to claim an actual victory, since the character is alive.

NOW there are characters that are ghosts. But they are like a species, rather than what every character goes through when they die. Ghost characters are used in particular instances that have nothing to really do with the death of another character (besides the ghost character).


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Magics

So Character 2's owner decides to cast the ghost character in heaven or hell which ever one it belong, by way of magics. after all it, this basically the only way a ghost can be destroyed.. well.. you know what I mean.

For Example:

(Now as stated in previous posts there are rules that have been laid out in the fight. Which include magic. No healing (considered a magic) and no reviving/resurrecting (which is why character 1's owner could not do such things.)

Often magics are placed under post limit. The post limit is 3 for this fight. this must include, if not more, the summoning of the power, the projecting of power, and the casting of the power.


Character 2: :: He looked over the ghost, and calmly decided to put the restless spirit to ease. He was going to send the soul into heaven, that way it would rest in peace and not be an angry spirit. He sheathed his sword, for now it was no use to him. Stepping forward with his left foot, firmly planted on the ground he started to chant. His fingers slowly began to move in the rhythm of his chant.:: (post 1)

:: He started to build up his power. Pulling it from the energy reserves of his soul. Gathering it from other sources, such as the ground and the plants. He called unto the spirits in heaven to open it to allow entrance for one spirit. His eyes were shut, shut tightly, for one knows that one will be blinded from the sight of heaven's lights. His energy was bouncing around him like electricity. Pulling at his clothes and the air around him.:: (post 2)

:: The air around him was packed with energy as he moved his body to its rhythm. Calling out for the spirits of heaven to guide the lost one into heaven. Tilting his finger tips up, into the skies. He pushed his energy out, while in the same time capturing the lost spirit that had been trying to get away. It was wrapped in his power. He pushed the spirit into the skies, with an offering of his own spiritual energies. It was accepted and so was the spirit.:: (post 3)

:: He fell to the ground, his body drained. He thusly fell asleep on the soft grass..::

Awwww... so cute.

*Important*

Never assume you are more powerful than another person. After even one simple magic spell, your character is exhausted. Unless you have split your character's energies into many spell in a rapid amount, there is no way you can recover fast, with out having a potion of some sort (which is also outlawed in most fights by default, for some potions grant the person powers, including some jewelry which will have to be accepted before hand.)

I hope I have helped some what.

I'm thinking about putting up more, but maybe I wont.

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Twas a little older in the times, but oh well. Next one:

[quote](some explainations on Playwrite and Novelistic.)

It has been asked why I am so anti-playwrite format so here's some explination and some tips.

Playwrite Format: Playwrite format is basicly like a play. You give out a little "id" badge of the character with out give the other person an actual image. (or you use an picture to describe your character). You know the basic:

Name:
Age:
Sex:
Race:
etc.

Format.

1) I find it rude. It's like telling the person who's reading your enterance that he wont understand if you put your character's information into sentences.

2) I find that it shows Lazy ness of the owner of the character. Down right laziness. It's embarassing to see people use it over and over again. It brands you as a lazy person.

3) if you were to switch from being in forums all you rping life then over to chats and you use that format, people are going to think your nuts and ignore you. Passing you over as one of the "N00Bs" of the chat. You are a newbie to the chat, but possibly you have really good rping skills, but not so good enterance skills.

4) It doesn't give you a lasting mental image. Say you give me a picture of the character. I am not going to be able to picture that character moving around, because I have seen it in one stance. it's going to feel like one of those puppet shows were you take a piece of paper, cut it out into an image and then it doesn't move.

5) Enterances are meant to Introduce a character. Not ID him. A character can be described with words without a picture. If you can't describe your character without a picture, then why are you here? Because all that roleplaying is, is words in sentences describing how a character is moving.

And I think that Number 5 has a real point to it. You ever notice that when you see people using this format they become lazy, like number 2. They don't want to describe what the character is doing or how he is affecting the area because they have become accustomed to just having an id badge for them and then they get to be allowed to enter. Like it's no big deal and they can just pull off a one liner.

Like say you entered with a Playwrite format.

Name: Character 3
Age: 17
Looks: picture
Bio: Lived with family until 5, left town, returns back after few years on own.

-picture cannot be seen-

Ok, your computer fails you. the picture cannot be seen, so what I am going to go off of? A invisiable person?

So you've entered in playwrite and then get started rp.

Character 3: (<~~ probably won't do that but that's a part of playwrite) ::looks around::


WOW! Holy frickin' mother of anubis! You just explained how your character got there, what he's doing there and where he is in referance to the whole setting! (setting beind a city)

Novelistic Format:

Where you use all sentences all the time with everything including enterance. Now it has been said that people think that this is not a good way to go because your just jumping in on the rp. Your not if you enter. That's the whole idea of "entering" you describe how your character go there, etc etc etc. You don't just do a one liner like character 3 did.


:: Character 4 yawned slight, looking bored as he sat on the bus. It crossed over, into the city's limits. He had business to do there. Hopefully his clint would be there. He looked at his watch.:: 8:30am, already? Hmm..

:: Character 4 looked in the mirror that the driver used to veiw the people in the bus. She looked about 30, but was aged about 38, she was getting old. She should settle down and have some childern. But her lifestyle was too heckitic. Since she had been little, she always wanted to improve the life of the world. This city poluted and killed the ozone layer. She hoped that soon, she would be able to change that, with her clint. ::

:: She looked back at those black pools she had for eyes, they had some wrinkles, but not noticeable.. well not too noticeable. Her tanned skin reflected her time out, working with people, helping to clean up parks and restore old building to good as new condition. She was strong, but still weak in a way that gave her image, a younger more interesting characteristic about her. Her brown hair, cut short, gave her the look of a tough business woman, in fact a tough woman all around. She wasn't the type to just roll over for people, they had to prove their worthiness to her. Her gray business suit complemented her nicely, even though she didn't have any curves, like some of the more famous women of the world. She still made her best of times.::

:: The bus rolled to a stop and she moved out, filling out along with the others. She got her two bags and walked out of the station, read to catch a cab.::


Character 4 explained in great detail about herself, how she got in the city, what she was doing in the city, and what she looked like. Even some Bio. This is a very good enterance. Character 4's owner is not jumping into the rp, she is slowly guiding herself towards it, like a hawk does to gain way to the skies. There is not just ploping herself into the city and "looking around" like character 3. He doesn't even describe where the character is at! There is nothing going on with "looking around".

>P

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Yeah playwrite enterance = bad.

Now onto another post.
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[DragonicFlames]

(this is going to be the long)

[quote]Moding, Powerplaying, godmoding: More expensive information.

Moding wasn't just forcing a hit on a character (back then) it also applied like powerplaying. But then people started getting upset about moding how it was too confusing for them to figure out which defination it was so they seperated Moding from Powerplaying.

So it could be Godmoding or Godplaying. But it kind of doesn't make sence in the whole godplaying, because godplaying sounds more like it would be that you are playing as a God. and most rps don't have anything to do with God-like characters.

Then you get the rps that actually do have God-like characters that people are playing.

[quote]Godmoding: Is when you are either immortal and/or when you sat that you cannot die when a serious wound is inflicted upon. Character def. When playing a "god" like character or even a god him/herself.[/quote]


Woot. I must have been tired when I wrote this, was a while ago remember strata this was in one of your topics way back..


[quote]Powerplaying: when an character (such as character 2) is rped by someone other than the character's owner with out permission [/quote]



Let's clear up some stuffers. Godmoding is similuar to powerplaying. But isn't the same.


Godmoding can be assume that there is a god in the arena where two characters are at. The one character would probably proclaim that this "god" is his or her partner or something of that nature and use it to make himself immortal. Like..

"This God likes me better, and has granted me the power of Immortality."

That forces the other character's attacks to be uneffective.



[quote] Moding: Moding is when one character forces another character to take a hit. This hit will probably be something that was not warranted and was not issued in the correct path. [/quote]



Now, moding can also be considered the blocking of someone's well warrented attacks with out a plausable excuse.

This immortality is moding against the other character's attack. It makes the other character almost useless so what's the point in fighting right? Seriously that's not fair and any type of unfair play is also considered moding.

Weither it be forced hits, Immortality, Powerplaying, etc etc etc. Moding is like the universal term for the fact that someone decides to rp in an unfair way.

These other terms, Powerplaying, godmoding, etc are more spefic terms of Moding.[/quote]

and then:

[quote]There seems to be come confusing on why we use action brackets. So here's some examples and explaintions and everything.

1) Action brackets are these: :: :: or -= =- Not these: *  *. Plain and simple.

      Action brackets are used to seporate Actions of a character from the spoken words of the character. They are not used to "switch scenes." They are used to move a character, or to seperate the text from the other spoken text.

Like so:

:: She walked up to the bar countertop, a viewed the seletion. Deciding that the white wine was the best, in the best year of course. she ordered with her french accented voice.:: White Wine, please, in a wine glass if you don't mind.

See you can see where the actions stop and then the talking takes place.

2) What about quotation marks?

Well some people don't use action marks, but they use quotations to seperate the words from the actions. It's exactly what you would do in a book.

Like so:

The night was settling down upon the campers, and she could feel the cold's icy grip on her skin. She shivered and muttered, "It's so cold... I thought it was supposed to be warm tonight. Damn weather people, never getting the weather right."


Understand?[/quote]

next post...
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[DragonicFlames]

I am wondering if you are going to read all of this.... :/

[quote]More explainations on colon and quotation mark useages:


Yay, DF edited her post, so let's get some s**t straight... alrighty then?

1) Strata closed Chibi's post before I could blast her. DARNIT! I wanted so bad to beat her to a pulp, but Oh well... :: shurg, ::  way it works right?


2) [quote]Actually, I really, really hate seeing those used. It detracts from the actual writing; an annoyance if you will. That's because that's not how colons are ordinarily used, and if it's not used in the way it's supposed to be, it denotes bad grammar to me.

So. Just so you know, whenever I see colons in uncommon use, I won't read the post after that, whether it's well written or not. I might skim through it, but the colons just mess it up - I won't read it in detail for sure if I see those anywhere near the post.
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Well, I can't help you there. Just respect my wishes, if you miss something important cause you skimmed, not my fault now is it? Nope.

:3

3) [quote] ..So?  Just because you're RPing doesn't mean you need to fill a post with extraneous junk. Quotation marks are a hundred-fold better because that's what people are used to seeing. [/quote]

How am I to explain this.


1a) Rping was taught as a practice to help people who were doing novels, preform better and make better novels.

So to seperate the Novel from the rp, they used colons around the action brackets. In fact they used action brackets and quotation marks like so:


:: He looked around in the midnight air, his heart pounding.:: "Where are they?" :: He wondered slightly, trying hopelessly calm himself down.::

Rping, in the thought of writing it down and not in the thought of D&D, was practice for when the Author went back to writing his story. It helped authors to understand how to play out key parts, like scenes and things like that.

Which is why I enter almost after every paragraph to help seperate down paragraphs.

2a) I don't really care if you use the quotes and no action brackets or action brackets, or any combination of the words qoutation marks and action brackets, [b] JUST AS LONG AS YOU SEPERATE THE TWO[/b] that way we don't get confused when you are talking and when you are moving.

3a) [quote]I find the use of colons to be confusing, especially when there's dialog and I'm not keeping track of whether the colons were starting or ending an action. I prefer quotation marks - I've been reading them all my life so I don't even have to think about it. Heck, if I'm contributing to an RP, and it's essentially cooperative storytelling, then I'm definitely going to write it like a novel (with novel-length replies, ahhhh!). It's easier for me to read, and I suspect that it's easier for others to read too. [/quote]

Think of the colons like mun bubbles ok? See: ( You can tell where these end right?)

well then you should be able to see when I start something like this:

[b]::[/b]He looked around and saw her, calling out to her. [b]::[/b] Rindi_chan, tis the dawn! We must ride away! [b] :: [/b] He swept her off her feet, and placed her on the back of his steed, and so they rode off into the winds[b]::[/b]


4) [quote]Quotation marks are traditional -- the "prim & proper" of prose format.
BTW, you do remember what DG-Sama's etiquette guide said about being consistent with style? That means you, DF, should really be using traditional prose in that Blood Moon RP and not the ::actionspeak:: format [/quote]

Don't bash my style, eh? What I was taught and what I'll use thank you very much. I am sure the person, (aka with fifteen years of experiance when I started) had more years of experiance than you do right now. Or even with both of us combined.

I've seen a one hundred and sixty seven post enterance, and fight afterward, in complete colon use, so to say the least, I am sticking with my style. Thank ye.




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In short:

But go ahead if you want to do " "'s.

^^;

I have no problem with that.

But I am going to continue to do the way I was taught. Everything I have stated, etc etc etc etc is all that I have been taught and experianced myself.[/quote]

woooooo:


[quote]Alright, I think you are asking me about the whole number of posts in an enterance right?

Well there is no limit on how many or how little posts of an enterance you can do. If you want to have a professional looking one I would suggest you do about ten posts.

What's a post you ask? Well a post is a paragraph that is about three to five sentences long. It can contain what ever you want in it and what ever you need in it.

Reason it's three to five sentences (or the basic limit) is because Aol's chats only have a certain amount of text you can fill in. Normally ranges between three to five sentence and then you have to press enter for the text to go into the chat. ( which is why I enter after every paragraph I type. Habbit (sp? probably) and because it looks cleaner. sort of. )

So a certain number enterance post refers to how many posts you did for an enterance.

My (before I retired from rping AOL) normal was/is 25+ posts. But I kind of slowed down a bit... people wouldn't love me if I did that to them. 25 is the minium number I used to do and the + means I would go over it.

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Fighting.

Now I know people are going to ask me about this, so I might as well start it now.

RP Fighting:

Tips:

- never chanledge anyone. Because then you'd have to fight to their rules and style.
- Always have a set of rules ready before you even go anywhere into a section of rping. (or chat as the case may be)
-Use TBL. Meaning Turn Base Logic which one person types a number of posts and the other goes over that number.

Rules:

1) Set down minium postings.

What are they?

Like so:

Posts: 3-5 sentences (you can make it as many sentences or lines as you want, but make sure that is at least 3-5 a person might call a post by a one liners. :/ Not good)

Attacks: 7 posts (or an number of posts, Mine is around 7-10 depending on my mood)

Parrys/Blocks: 10 (always higher than attacks, Parrys are when the swords knock away the attack of the other sword or he does something to block the attack)

Magic/Summoning: 35 (Always higher than everything else, people like to cheat with magics, so it's best to just ignore them  and so no magic)


Good rule of thumb:

No Potions
No Magical Items that enhance character
No Amulets and Jewelry


Anything that would Give a character an unfair advantage.

Always list no moding or any kind of moding, as a rule. somewhere in that list of rules you should.[/quote]


again... next post.
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[DragonicFlames]

now note that this was all settled a while ago..... but it still has useful info:

(I was right... like I always am. anime.. >/ NO MORE double D we aren't talking about a bra line here)

[quote]I noticed Neither you nor strata (by the way strata, I am FEMALE!!! FEMALE!!!! ><)

Put Modding into context. SURE it comes up, on google. But is it the same defination?

Hrmers?

Hremermkermermemrmes?

:D

Yes, Let's just see. Definations.

Isn't funny though? When you look onto this site (which you listed): That they use Godmoding. As the most used term, through out the article. And just because it has a referance to using Godmodding, you say that is an example that can used. ;/ I find that that maybe, Godmodding, is when a person who is the host of the rp is moderating as a god. Thus, is would be used.

Think about, A lot of people use modding (not moding) as the term for moderation. and maybe because people use moding and then modding, as terms on their websites, that in context, it may be said or rather type once or twice, and google picks it up. But it's not in the terms of Moding and the spelling, but rather, Modding as Moderation then Moding as playing unfair.

Or even, let's just say the spell is correct, right?

Maybe it's a pural term of the ing word. ( which I doubt)

ALSO! I'd like you to note that God -MODE is exactly what wiki uses. Not Godmodding.

Shall we use it to find Modding?

I am coming up with lots of things for MODERATERS! Not moding.

If you are going to use the damn word, using it in the right context.

Just because a term is "common" doesn't mean you are using it in the right context. Thats like saying "Hey I like the way you had writen that post"

and then you go arould and say that I who had spoke that sentence, like you as in I said "Hey, I like you."

It's out of context.



OH and by the way. I didn't say that I had rped in ever corner of the net. Stop putting words into my fingers. (or mouth). (so thank you very much Fayore)




[quote]you are moderating an action to another player's character.[/quote]

I kind of think you are using Moderation out of context here. Google my friend, show us the answer?

:: Gets a whole bunch on "using in moderations.:: .-.; Let's get a little more spefic then:

rp, moderation

:: gets more about how you should moderate rps. :: ._.; Beanubis.

Rp, moderation, Rping

:: still getting "You should moderate how you rp.::

Rp, Moderation, Rping, modding

:: Gets all kinds of stuff on Moderaters.:: Boo ya! :D


Oh and I won't lie, i did think about moddifing as you just stated (a couple posts ago ._.; )

But then I thought. Moddifing, does not happen in a rp by someone else. Moddifing happens when you enter a rp.

You don't enter a character the same way twice. (Unless you copy and pasted)

Because when you enter a rp, for the first time. You are taking your character and thinking about what your character's past events were and then place into some form on a the character.

Again, Moddification doesn't happen when someone modes you. It happens when you change you character. If someone modes, it automaticly ignored, as a void. Because he has moded. So there is no moddification happening.

Right?

Here's an example.

Ok strata, hell ok you too Fayore.

I am here sitting on rock and you two are conversing some way aways, right?

Well, you guys say something like: "I don't like pie." (bare with me) and then I get all pissed and go over you, and cut your ears off.

I moded. So, you'll ignore me in the rp and then bitch me out in Mun speak.

So there is no moddification. I cannot moddify your character. There is no way.

That is why Godmodding (or shall we say) God Moddifications is not a word. Because a God does not moddifiy a character in a rp. Even if you are playing a god, you cannot moddify another character.

There is only one person who can moddify the character, the person controling the character. That person chooses to accept the mode, or to ignore it, which is the more likely chance. (Unless your me, and then i mess the mode all up. lol. ) Also, the character can parry the mode.

So, since i know am repeating myself, There is no moddification going on. Therefore, there is not modding (in the terms of moddification).


Now let's do the modding in the moderating context. (My fingers are sore.... we need to set up a friggin' voice chat or something. Cause I am yelling at the computer screen while I type. lol ._.; )

Even if you are a moderator, you can't moddify a character, unless the character is like having sex or even moding. Then you can kick the mun out of the forum, chat, etc. But you are still not moddifing the character. Your knocking it out of play, but that doesn't change the charcter. The character still is probably horny. But you kicking him out doesn't change it. ;)

Now moding.

Every one of these websites, etc etc etc etc. All use the word, Mode. God mode, Mode, moder, etc.

Why? Because from the dawn of time, (rping time that is ) to mode, is the term that everyone uses as a blanket term for unfair play.

I mean someone had to think it up, because they were tired of writting down "Hey you, you frigging forced a damn hit on my character, Fo shizzle. And you need to stop. "

When they could now say "Hey you, asshole, you moded. "

and people will know what the hell he's talking about. And then they'll gang up on the moder and beat the crap out of him. He becomes and outcast... and dies.... alone... :/

(I am telling you, my fingers are bleeding!!! Nubs!! ;-; )

Understand? :D

(I can't type no more.. I need to go soak my fingers in ice water...;-; )

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More of this:

[quote]I just now am reading it. I am currently writing in notepad and will transfer stuff over to a post. Which means I am going to do the break down of your post, strata. :D

(is it bad that I know the password into this forum by heart? And why is there no one on YIM! This sucks. Basicly the only reason I am reading this thread is because I am waiting for something to download and have a lot of time on my hands or I wouldn't have done it because this whole damn forum is basicly dead as a doornail. And I hate to say it but. F-in told you so. But no... No one listens to DF because DF is obviously crazy and stupid. >/)

[quote]Mind if I present an argument/viewpoint regarding the term modding/moding? (I can agree with the term 'godmoding', as in "God mode", so that's not the issue).

I believe the more accurate term for normal modding/moding phenomena should be 'modding'.

We could look at it grammatically -- 'modding' = to mod, 'moding' = to mode. "Mode" is a noun, not a verb. It's not even a verbage, either, because it derives from the longer term 'godmoding'. It's shorthand.

'Mod', on the other hand, is a verb; it's slang for "modify" (also "moderate"). Specifically, modding refers to the creation and/or use of modifications to an object that were never seen or intended by its designer/creator.

Buying and installing aftermarket car parts (CD players, speakers, custom spoilers, neon lights, etc.), for example, is a form of "modding" one's car (or "pimping out one's ride" ).

There's also the gaming context of the term 'modding'. To 'mod' a videogame means to create an unauthorized modification to the game's data. This can be in the form of hacks (GameSharks, etc.) or modified datasets/downloads that the game loads in addition to (or sometimes instead of) its original data.

Modding a videogame is a legal gray area. Some developers may allow or encourage it; others may litigate (and some have).

Modding can be especially troublesome in multiplayer videogames. Many newer games have countermeasures to ensure fair play and prohibit modding, but in older games (such as Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight), you could, for example, 'mod' the weakest gun to fire the strongest bullets in the game, 'mod' all weapons/attacks to do zero damage (to yourself), or even 'mod' a multiplayer arena with such flags as 'underwater' or 'pit' to play havoc with the game's basic physics (99% of the time, to the detriment of everyone else).

Now for how the term 'modding' can apply to an RP? Easy! When you control another player's character without their owner's prior consent, or cause events in the RP to affect the player's character without their consent, you are in fact making an unauthorized change to that player -- be it their location or status. And that's the definition of making a 'mod', or 'modding' them.

Examples:
*A chops B's hand off* - Character B is now missing a hand.
*a bunch of rocks fall on B* - Character B is now trapped underneath a rockslide.
*character B nods in agreement with A* - Did B really agree with A?

And like videogame modding, RP modding is a gray area too. Sometimes it can be overlooked and forgiven while the RP continues. Other times you'll have to call the player on it to debate whether it was valid to do that at all (and if not, to disregard/invalidate the particular action). If you don't call them on it, then it's invariably a valid contribution to the RP.

Regardless of what was the "original" or "proper" term, what I've described above is indeed a workable explanation of what 'modding' is. Doesn't matter if it's the original definition or a back-formation, the point is that the term makes sense with what its meaning is.

So there really isn't much of an debate about whether 'modding' is a valid term for an RP -- because it can be. The rest is semantics[/quote]


You know strata, you wrote this huge whole thing on the english language, correct?

What happened to the exceptions to the rule?

Moding is a techinal term, Not a friggin' word no kidding. I bet there are plenty of friggin' techinal terms that don't count as words and yet people are saying them.

Personally, you just want to make this a spelling issue.. But it's not. It's a big huge issue when you go out and tell newbies that THIS.. THIS RIGHT HERE is the way you are supposed to say it and spell it and it's not correct.

Modding Or Moddifing Only happens in one place. When YOU as a rper MODDIFY You own character.

Did I not just give examples on how You only moddify your character like a couple pages ago? Did you not read them or something?

Another person cannot Moddify your character in any situation at all. Even if the other person is playing a god. (God-playing, you see that... that's not a correct term either... but I think you changed your view on that... Not sure...exactly)

Mode is a term that rpers will use as a singular form for a forced hit. Mod is a slang term that rpers will uses for Moderators.

Now you may want to what... "plural-i-ze" the term with a double D but that would make is Modding (like Moderation) and would change the ENTIRE meaning of the word. (You understand?) which is WHY people spell it:

M O D I N G

You can pronouce it anyway you'd like, But I pronouce it "MODE-ing" I also pronouce Pwning like ( P -OWNing But that's another story. Lol) Because it was first MODE.

And I am perticularly tired of repeating myself. Again and again and again.

Just like a man you have to drill it into their brains to make them get it. Lol Just teasing you Strata. I mean no harm. Don't shoot me.... >/

But still, strata. you Can't go on teaching people the way you have. People will go out into the rping world going. Hey you are modding.. and people are going to be like "No I am not moderating" and they are going to be like "No I mean you are playing unfair, modding." and they'll laugh and say "Hun, that's not modding, that Moding. Who taught you?!"

;/ Sad facts people in the Elite world of rping cha these days if you don't spell it correctly you are an idiot and "pwned" instantly.

I am serious. There are people I know that can do like one hundred and thirty nine posts in a couple of hours. That's scary.[/quote]


Oooooh and the final post that settled it allllllll


[quote][quote]Besides, "modify" is already pronounced moddify, not modeify[/quote]

Did I say it was? It's spelled Modifing it's NOT spelled Moddifing. So if you CUT OUT this:

Mod(if)ing. You GET Moding. As you can clearly see. By the way pronoucement has nothing to do with the spelling of words.

Examples:

Knife and Know and Hour. ;)


Also Singular form of Moding IS MODE M. O. D. E.! Not MOD! xP[/quote]
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[DragonicFlames]

i know tooooo much about rping, don't I? ^^
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[Pyrodragon125]

Lmao DF. If you weren't describing stuff, that would have been grounds for the biggest suspension EVER! Hahahaha so many huge posts!!!
Too much to read, but I get the gist of it. I figure I'll try a couple RP threads later this week just to check it out. It could be fun. *shrug*

See you there, DF. :wub: :wub:

[Brianhjh]

I think I'm gonna achieve a new level of English linguistics after reading and comprehending that stuff, hold on...
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[Stratadrake]

Errr, DF, you're infodumping. Where's the "edit" button when you need it?
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[Fayore]

I didn't read any of it. It happens when people infodump. It's much easier to just summarize things. Besides, most of that stuff was just you and Strata arguing about how the word "moding" is pronounced and what it means. I still take the grammatical point of view on that, but who cares anymore? It's not that important in the grand scheme of things. :P

[quote]If you can get in that little nitch with the other good RPers, you might be able to last, but even then there is always the chance of a n00b running in to f**k it all up and drive you insane.[/quote]
But Adv.RP is password protected to prevent that sort of thing. :(

EDIT: and Brian can get all the crucial info he needs just by reading the pinned threads in Gen.
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[Brianhjh]

I still don't get how people can suddenly enter without breaking up the story line in pieces, especially after 10+ pages of story. :/
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[Fayore]

That [i]is[/i] rather difficult. ^^; Even I tend to avoid doing something like that to prevent messing up the flow of the story. but if I really want to join an RP that I'm interested in, I think the best way is just a casual entrance. Basically, I watch for events in "crowded" places (ie. a city) and I basically take a bystander and give them a personality. Make them do something, anything - you don't need to have to interact with other players right from the beginning. It'll happen sooner or later, so you can just ride it out. :)

And if it's in a less populated area (ie. woods, your typical out-in-the-middle-of-nowhere setting), I either wait till the current event is finished, or, again, I just insert them doing something mundane. Doesn't even have to be in the same general area, I could be in a village right beside said forest where everyone else is.

Basically, you just post. Other people will notice your entrance and they'll inevitably make their way over to you. :P

As for breaking up the storyline... I find that with active RPs, it's worth reading it like a book, but that's better suited for finished rps. You don't work with a scenario that the original creator wrote and try to make it follow certain events, all planned out... you [i]live[/i] the scenario. After all, people can't really see their futures in a cut-and-dry fashion, can they?
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[Stratadrake]

[quote]I still don't get how people can suddenly enter without breaking up the story line in pieces, especially after 10+ pages of story.[/quote]
There's no real checklist to follow... but firstly, you have to study the premise and read through the RP (as much as you can) to get a good idea of what's going on and where it is....

Then you need to determine what kind of plot role your character can play, how and where. You should probably converse with the RP host about the possibility of your character joining the RP. And when discussing a new potential character with the host, it doesn't hurt to have a profile sheet handy.

(Stop -- did Strata just say "profile sheet"? Yup. The rule we have against them only applies to within the individual RP and entering it... it doesn't cover anything that occurs outside of said RP)

In summary, joining an in-progress RP is kinda like applying for a job. Application, interview, schedule, join. Approximately in that order.
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[DragonicFlames]

Infodumping? I am sorry not firmular with that term and by the way all that or atleast MOST of that came from my own site. Not from general. SO IT WOULD BE REASONABLE to read some of that. (Just for your info)


And besides.... I am cool like that. ;)

after all i must spread my knowledge must i not?


ANYWAY i would say to listen to [i]MOST[/i] of what strata tells you to do. >/ I mean, after all he does ::coughadvertisehisthreadsinother'speeps'sthreadswithoutwarningandwhenitclearlyhasyournamewrittenonitcough:: But up to you.
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[Stratadrake]

Infodumping: To present the reader with a helluva lot of information (usually reference information or exposition) in a short time span. This usually happens in the context of scenery description (where it is also known as "itemizing"), or also in the context of introducing a character (where it is basically a profile sheet in disguise).
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[DragonicFlames]

ah. ^^ helluva is a funny word. Helluva...I am going to say that from now on. Helluva.

^^ :P

:: addicted to the word now. ::
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