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Tengoku1
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look back at the art I did before, and I'm suprised that I spent so much time on them. When I think about drawing something big and new, I get lazy and just watch TV.

Has this happened to anyone else?

I guess when I became an Art Major, drawing became a chore. Just something I had to do to complete an assignment and make my portfolio.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, I think being closer and closer to your eventual demise as an artist filled with crack at the age of 32 is a good incentive to draw more as you get older.


I will be doing about 50 full-color drawings this year (estimate). that's up from last year, I'm purposefully taking more spares next year so I would have more time. I'm not in art major though.

I personally think artists would have more and better ideas if art was not their day job.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]I personally think artists would have more and better ideas if art was not their day job.[/quote]

Depends entirely on what their job is. Being in an art environment 24/7 breeds tons of inspiration and ideas, especially when surrounded by like minded people. It's just a matter of framework, you probably wouldn't be creating a finished product from thin air, but you'd creatively solve a given task and in the process come up with other ideas.

What kills art drive is secondary jobs, ones that are sorta like art but not really. Things like working in frame shops, while entirely good jobs and well suited for artistic people, pretty much all the frame shop owners I knew back home refused to hire anyone who wanted to be an artist because if you spend all day framing other people's pictures and art, using your design skills for matte cutting and wood choice, by the time you get home you just want to relax and forget about art.

As for being an art major killing drive, I don't see it. My roommate constantly draws. All the TAs in my classes constantly draw. All my classmates constantly draw and share sketchbooks. All the other upper classmen I've met constantly draw, sit in on other life drawing classes, and do projects for themselves. If it's what you love to do, being in an art driven environment just encourages you to draw [i]more[/i].

I don't get to paint in class [yet]. Or do portraits [can't even add faces on my life drawing pieces yet]. Or work in charcoal [starting next week]. So I do those at home. But I'm always sitting in class working on a surrealism collage or discussing concept art of the 60s and come up with new ideas. Whether I have the [i]time[/i] to do them right that day or week is quite another issue, but that just has to do with school/job in general and not what kind it is.

I draw way more now than I did four years ago. But then, four years ago I would almost always start a piece and see it through to the end. The two earliest pictures in my gallery, my two very first portraits, were both done in single 6 hour sittings. Now I work on tons of things at once, the majority never finished, for 4-30+ hours. But it's the process, not the finished piece in most cases, that I like.

Like right now, I should technically be outlining my final paper for Art History tomorrow morning, but I'm gonna try to finish my Theodore/T-Bag picture before Cultural Studies in a couple hours instead. All about making time. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do find art more difficult as I get older because I'm more critical of myself. I'm more aware to mistakes and... uh... ickyness I guess you'd call it. Rarely anymore am I at least 80% happy with a finished piece. I also like to challenge myself more, which creates even more difficulty.


I wish I were in an artistic environment as often as you, Fallen. I need some inspiration.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Tengoku1 like the Avitar.

somewhat both ways. I try to draw a big progect and I get sidetracked so easy. or I'm watching TV and I wanna draw somthing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm.

I find coming up with ideas to be harder as I get older, and my pictures take a lot longer, but I think that's just because I put more effort into my stuff now.

BUT, there are some things I find easier. Shading, for instance. Even my quickest doodles have shading that I could only dream of when I was younger, so in that area, things have gotten easier for me.

But I have gotten lazy. It's been months since I've produced anything worth looking at. :/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm no not really I find that it's quite the opposite..well I do must admit time wise their's hardly the time anymore but personally I'd say my art has been approving not well getting worse.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actualy... I find myself much more critical on myself, but like what's been posted before, I become much more active in my classes or around my artistic friends.

Even in my private classes, when I find myself forced to do something I really don't want to do, the artistic nature of the class usualy gives me some idea to go head first into the assignment while attacking it in my own special way... Like a painting of a monkey I'm doing. I didn't feel like doing a monkey, so I used a fun technique to balance out my hatred for the subject.

When I was younger, I just would have thrown my brush down and not done it at all. Well, I'm not using a brush, I'm using a pallet knife, but that's something completly different. O-o

While I'm being pressured into becoming an art major by everyone around me(friends, family,teachers even me), I do think it's rather unrealistic, simply because the chances of making are slim to none.

Still, I'd love to try... Just to try.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

insecurities tend to pop out at an older age as some of you have said.

Although, I think I'll just keep improoving as long as I keep at it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]While I'm being pressured into becoming an art major by everyone around me(friends, family,teachers even me), I do think it's rather unrealistic, simply because the chances of making are slim to none.[/quote]

Artist is just as valid and possible as any other career. Freelance is slowly dying, and being an independent who makes their own pieces and shows in galleries is pretty much impossible to make a living at unless you're incredibly lucky, but an actual hired career is perfectly possible.

Insanely competetive, but most careers are. There's always someone else willing to do your job. But my school has a 96% placement rate for graduates, so it's possible.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about it, you're probably right. The whole reason I joined this site was to see other art and become inspired. And I do. I'm just lazy when it comes to homework. [img]http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/34.gif[/img]
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it becomes easier for me. Sure I'm more of a critic, but I also know how to tackle the project at hand more now than I ever did before, so that makes it a bit easier.

...and all this applies until it comes to a project that I'd really freakin' don't want to do. Then it's hard to make myself do and looks like crap in the end anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finding ideas is what i suffer from while getting older. I don't find out that it is harder to draw while getting older since i am developing my skills. When i reach the limit of my skills, i am proud from it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have to be in the right mood for drawing but i have found that as i grew older my drawings get better because im kind of a perfectionist and i spend as much time as i need to until my drawing gets perfect.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you go to MICA, Fallen?

It's been much easier for me to draw as I've gotten older. My skills have improved and I work a process quicker. I'm also inspired easier. When I was (much) younger, I'd look at (what I thought at the time) was a really good piece of art and get discouraged. Now, really good art inspires me to do better.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Art harder to do as you get older? Man...it seems like it sometimes, especially during the hellish month of Dec. Oh! damn commercial holiday! Honestly! this month has just been a joke...w/stress and teachers assigning too much too do at the last minute...at times I just want to shot myself for thinking about it.

Maybe when's it's not this horrid month I guess I do get alot of drawing, but it's not really new drawings just revamped ones. It's a petpeeve of mine to have unfinished drawings laying about. At this rate...I guess I'll draw something new. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as i get older i feel that my pictures get better not worse, i gain expierience from my past drawings, and in that way my future pictures get better and better.
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