Biggest Poser In Rock

ragingflea002 · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:57 am Post subject:

I know these choices are a little narrow. You may disagree with my belief that they ARE posers.
Avril- poses skaters, rockers, punks
Good Charlotte- poses punks
Blink 182- poses punks
Three Day's Grace- tries to pose punk, grunge, and goth(they failed) rock

If you disagree with these, put in other and give me who you think is a poser.

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fallenangel · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 10:52 am Post subject:

While I think they all are, I voted for Good Charlotte. Because Avril's pretty much been exposed as a poppy little fuck, but kids are still runnin' around with Good Charlotte swag talkin' about how badass they are and how "punk". The skinny one (Billy?) is pretty. That's all they're good for.

Others:

Limp Bizkit
Papa Roach
I'd argue Linkin Park, but the fangirls may jump me
Jon Bon Jovi

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VR_Jay · Very Oldbie Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725

i dunno, blink's been around for a while, they are more mainstream, but pretty much all punk is nowadays.

i don't realy care too much as long as i like their music. but i do agree with the rest of them.

please do not insult linkin park, they were one of the first to come out with that sound. now everyone and their grandmother is copying it. and failing. i hold a great deal of respect for that band, so don't diss them, ok?
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ragingflea002 · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 10:58 am Post subject:

My friend also has this weird belief that their song names, since they have nothing to to with the song or the lyrics are abstract, are rip offs of Nirvana's style of naming and writing.
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VR_Jay · Very Oldbie Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725

who's? LP's? well i'm holding hybrid theory in one hand and nirvana: greatest hits in the other, in about half the songs from each, their names have something to do with the lyrics, but hell, lots of bands do that. ever look at gorillaz? none of their tiltes have anything to do with the songs lyrics.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 11:12 am Post subject:

I hold a great deal of respect for the Rolling Stones, for Van Halen, for Axl Rose, but I'll still bust their balls. Rolling eyes

And if I'll give bands I love and care about a hard time, I sure ain't gonna give a band of whiny little brats a free pass.

It's not entirely the music that makes one a Poser.
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VR_Jay · Very Oldbie Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725

well, if you have a plausible reason for giving them a hard time, then by all means go ahead. i just hate people who post things like "J00 SUX0RS!" and give no reason. those people are jackasses.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 11:24 am Post subject:

And have I ever given a band a hard time for no reason? I think not. Yeah, I'll say I just don't like some groups, but I don't say they suck. In fact, I specifically said I wasn't putting The Darkness and Bon Jovi on the list of bands who suck because it's my personal preference only.

And baby, you gotta lighten up. It's just a band. And look who you're talking to. If I had a dime for everytime someone told me "Dude, those fags suck!" I'd be Bill fuckin' Gates. And if I let it bother me, I'd be more paranoid and psycho than Axl Rose.

Methinks everyone needs to take a step back and realize they ain't in the band and nothin' is a personal attack on them.
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VR_Jay · Very Oldbie Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725

hey, no hard feelings.

lessee, posers, posers.. Mili Vanili? can't get much more poser than two talentless pretty boys pretending to sing.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 11:51 am Post subject:

More posers no one will understand why:

Nikki Sixx
Sebastian Bach
Gene Simmons to a point
Scott Stapp
Tommy Lee

Again, poser: pretending to be something you are not. Doesn't have to be about the music.

Start a thread of most delusional in rock and I'll have a list in the hundreds for ya. Very Happy

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BAMFManiac · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject:

good charlotte. i call them posers and i don't even like using that term. and yes, i agree with you fallen, being a poser is not just about the music. so my reasons are that good charlotte thinks they are "punk" or "goth" but really have no relation to those words. punk is about anarchy and taking a stand, while gc just hypocritically writes about the "lifestyles of the rich and famous." because i'm sure their clothing line, albums, posters, and other merchandise sell so poorly. (sarcasm). and wearing dark makeup doesn't make you goth. so they should stop trying.

others: simple plan, evanescance

and i don't know if linkin park are "posers" really. they just suck. sorry, will. trust me i have their 1st cd as well as several mp3s from when they were called hybrid theory, but now it's just old and overplayed. it all sounds the same. and even if they were the first to come out with that kind of music, they shouldn't just stop there and continue doing the same thing over and over. they show no musical growth, and are extremely overrated.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject:

Fuck, I forgot Evanescence! I try so hard to block them out of my mind.

Not really "posers", but The Darkness drive me crazy. Because they're mocking my favorite genre. Grr!

I don't doubt they truly do want to bring the fun back into rock n' roll, but they're a novelty act that takes it too far. From the hair to the wardrobe to the lyrics to the guitars to the cheap mid-80s style video... it's a joke. Everyone's laughing at you, assholes. They'll be over in six months and it'll be right back to mall goths singing about how mean daddy is. And the fact people wet themselves over 'em like they're going to save rock and defeat the evil pop punk is just annoying. Leave glam rock to the big boys, ya dipshits.
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ragingflea002 · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject:

Will, not LP. Linkin Park hasn't posed anybody, just created a hybrid that shouldn't have been made. I'm talking about blink 182. My girlfriend's best friend played it full blast and I got an earful of the lyrics. Even if I was in fifth grade, I heard enough to put them on a "poser" list. Maybe not always because I feel that they use Nirvana's style of naming. God knows, I'm in a grunge band. Their "punk" attitude make me sick, I'm sorry. I'm not here to please, if I ever have. I have never gone against a band for no damn reason, and I never will. These comments are made through a unique perception of small details that may/may not be important. Now, as for Evanescence, same deal. Overuse of goth/punk genre and, Jesus Christ, too much damn pain. My ex used to listen to them and made me listen to them on the bus. Another reason as to why she's my ex. I WILL NOT JUDGE UNLESS I KNOW ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND.
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ragingflea002 · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:02 pm Post subject:

And I sure as Hell hope that comment about jackasses wasn't directed at me.
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BAMFManiac · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject:

lol uh i don't think that will's jackass comment was directed at you, flea. i think he was just making a generalization. (but then again, what do i know?)

hmm personally, i like blink 182. not one of my favourite bands, but they're pretty funny guys, and their music is good to just listen to and sing along with and not take seriously. i don't have their new album (tho i know it's very different and more serious), but i have a couple of their old albums and there are a few very good songs, along with a bunch of little, poppy-punk songs that are probably filler, but just fun to listen to. i know they're really mainstream, and have become the sort of generic punk band, along with green day, but that doesn't mean they have to completely suck (no offense, this is just my opinion). hmm i never really thought about the nirvana song-naming thing, tho. a lot of their song titles aren't mentioned in the song, but do have some relevance to the song. plus, they were my first concert! pop disaster tour in 2002 (i think).

lol i try to block evanescence from my mind, too, fallen. i forgot them in the "worst bands ever" list. and sorry you hate the darkness. "saviors of rock and roll"? um... yea i don't think so
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:59 pm Post subject:

See, that's the thing, though. Being a poser doesn't mean you suck. Hell, I said Nikki, Tommy, and Sebastian are. You can be incredibly talented and still be a poser.

Nikki has written some of the best lyrics in the past 30 years and is one amazing musician, but especially recently he says whatever is cool at the time. Back in the late 80s he was saying Poison was cool, and was being photographed givin' the thumbs up with Bret. But in 2004, Poison is no longer cool, and he turned down being on the Kiss tour if Poison was going to be. He said Motley was a good top 40 band, then later that they weren't a top 40 band. Whatever is cool at the moment, that's what he wants to be. And that's what a poser is. He's still talented and does his own thing musically, but his image and likes and dislikes change depending on the flavor of the month.

Tommy is a great drummer, but have you heard him talk lately? Boy thinks he's a black man from the ghetto. Methods of Mayhem was just kinda sad.

No comment on Blink 182's music, since I don't listen to it and don't like that style, but their image and attitude is very poser-esque.
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BAMFManiac · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:15 pm Post subject:

lol... black man from the ghetto...

and yes you are completely correct, fallen. being a poser doesn't mean you suck.

and as for nikki sixx, not sure who that is, but i hate people who are like that. a lot of people (especially our age) just follow the times and change their minds every other second as to what's "cool". following trends, and whatnot. sheep! sheep i say! (lol anyone ever seen [i]can't hardly wait[/i]? "sheep! you... are all... sheep... baaa!" ah funny movie)
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ragingflea002 · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject:

Think of a genuine poser as Linkin Park. After Limp Bizkit used the rock/rap hybrid, Linkin Park comes and uses the exact same thing, just less cussing and no sexual lyrics. I know I'm gonna pay for that, but it's true. Kid Rock poses many country genres and butchers them by adding "hard-core" rock to try and make it interesting. It is made interesting, but in the bad way.
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BAMFManiac · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject:

lol kid rock makes me laugh. his music confuses me

and yea, that's tru that linkin park sorta ripped off limp bizkit and even papa roach, but became even more popular. lol of all bands to rip off, WHY would you choose those?
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ragingflea002 · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:43 pm Post subject:

Better those bands than Nirvana or Guns N' Roses. Screw up the entire genre.
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