Rpg's

Meredianna · Has No Life Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 526

Ok, all rpg's have the same story it's all about some emo dude who wants to destroy earth or the universe...and we gotta kill the emo dude to save earth. a few rpg games are about save the princess, but most of em are about someone who wants to destroy earth for some stupid reason. o_O

Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

... Just how many RPGs have you played to get such a stereotypical impression? Judging from what you've said, I don't think you've played any beyond Final Fantasy. o_o

Let me list off a few basic plots for you:

Summon Night 1 - Kid gets summoned into another world, and needs to find his way back to his own world while avoiding getting killed/kidnapped for being a "stray summon". Multiple endings (and one includes the main character becoming a demon lord! 8D).

Summon Night 2 - Teen who is a part of a school for summoners gets pulled into a rather large amount of events, and his senior is hiding a few secrets about the both of them... Multiple endings.

Summon Night 3 - Main character happens to be a teacher in a summoning school. 8D Multiple endings.

Summon Night EX Thesis - Main characters are on a quest to find their lost memories and remove the curse that has both their souls sealed in the same body. Gets a little weird because one's a guy, and the other's a girl. 8D

We won't go into the Craft Sword Stories.

Now, I'll go into games that AREN'T SN-related. xD

.hack - kid wants to find a way to help his friend out of a coma he's fallen into.

Disgaea - A Demon King has died, and various factions wage battle over who gets to become the next king of Hell. Main character is the deceased Demon King's obnoxious son who is alos vying for control.

Phantom Brave - main characters is a little girl who lost her parents at a young age, and a "phantom" of a teen who used to be friends with the little girl's parents, but he died (when they did), and was half way broght back to life by the girl's dying father. He swears to be her guardian.

Makai Kingdom - The Demon Lord screwed up and accidentally destroyed his own universe while getting himself sealed into a book, and now he's trying to rebuild his lost world and get his body back while trying to protect himself from other demon lords who would like to see him dead while he's in his incapacitated state.

Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure - sweet basic story about a young girl who wants to get married to the prince of the kingdom, but alas! he's been kidnapped by a witch who also wants to marry him, but she's accidentally turned him to stone or something. XD She has to rescue him. As the title says, it's a musical adventure; the characters break out into song all the time. Very Disney-reminescent.

Wild Arms 3 - Main character is a girl who wants to find her missing father and find for herself the real idea of "justice" on the wastelands as a "Drifter". Set with a very "western" feel.

Wild Arms 4 - Main character is a 13 year old boy who finds out one day that he's a natural born "gene driver", able to use powerful, ancient weapons known as "ARMs", and his peaceful life's been thrown out of whack when his village gets broken into, and he discovers that the world he's known all along has been a "false" world. He tries to get through the wastelands while protecting a girl he met and finding his mother who he was separated from when the colony was broken into.

Xenosaga [series] - Main character is a part of a research team constructing an anti-gnosis (somekind of volatile "alien" life form) battle android called KOS-MOS. Even though she's the head engineer, soon we discover that she doesn't know much about KOS-MOS at all, and plenty of strange things begin to happen relating to KOS-MOs and "Old Miltia", an old colony/planet that used to be inhabited by humans 14 years ago, but has been destroyed due to some strange malfunction in the Realians, the synthetic humans.

Castlevania - technically an action game, but has enough focus on plot for me to list it as an rpg. Vampire hunting. What more is there to say? ;P Plus the series has tonnes of games, each with distinct plots. I won't get into them all.

Pokemon - I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was. To catch them all is my real test, a trainer to become~ (lyrics may be a little off o_o)

Angelique: Heaven's Requiem - The main character, Angelique, is sent on a mission to recover the kidnapped Nine Guardians who govern the different powers of Sacrea, and in her journey, she discovers a mysterious swordsman... Aside from being an RPG, it's also a dating sim. ;P

Threads of Fate/Dewprism - One of the main characters wants to get a hold on a legendary artifact to revive his dead love who died trying to protect him. Has amnesia. The other main character is an obnoxious, loud princess who wants to get the same artifact so she can take over the world (but mostly to show her stuck-up sister who's boss around here). Dual storylines; one for each character.

Tales of Phantasia - The Demon King Dhaos has been awakened from his seal and now wants to destroy mankind. But what are his motives? The main character finds that out over his quest to destroy Dhaos, and in the end, it can be hardly said that the main characters have done the right thing...

Lunar: Silver Star Story - the main character wants to go on an adventure and become a Dragonmaster, protector of the Goddess Althena, much like his idol, the legendary Dragonmaster Dyne. He has a childhood friend who gets kidnapped, and thus begins his journey...

Lunar: Eternal Blue - the main character meets a woman from the mysterious "blue moon", and has sworn to protect her as she journeys to the capital to meet with the Goddess Althena.

Star Ocean - I don't remember much of 1 to talk about it, but in 2, the main character accidentally gets landed on a strange planet where he promises to investigate a strange meteorite called the "sorcery globe" which has been spreading demons across the lands since its crash-landing. He makes this promise as he believes that it might help him find a way back, although he rapidly loses interest in this goal. Neutral

In SO3, the main character is on vacation with his parents when the planet they're on gets attacked, and he finds himself separated from family and friends when he gets into an escape pod. Crash lands on another planet and he's trying to find a way home. :0

And I'm done for now. :0
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Meredianna · Has No Life Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 526

[quote]... Just how many RPGs have you played to get such a stereotypical impression? Judging from what you've said, I don't think you've played any beyond Final Fantasy. o_o[/quote]
I did.

here's some save the world games:

castlevania (haunted castle)
chrono trigger
chrono cross
dragon quest *save the princess*
dragon quest 3
dragon quest 7
final fantasy <3
kingdom hearts
lunar series
mario rpg
paper mario
star ocean till the end of time
tales of destiny
tales of eternia
wild arms
xenosaga
xenosaga 2
zelda series

I played those games and there's more of course xD

Some rpgs have unique storylines, but most of them are save the princess...save someone else...save the world blah blah

KeheiZero · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:40 am Post subject:

Is there anything more worthwhile than saving the world? Saving your pension plan for instance?
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TK421 · Elder In Training Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 3711

Saving the world is the story line for many games not just RPG's Grr!

Even Crash Bandicoot games and other childrens games have "saving the world" as a storyline

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Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

...You know, the point of RPGs is not the ending, but how the main characters get to that ending. :\

...And where on earth did you get the idea that Xenosaga's about saving the world? Because it's honestly not. Furthermore, the series isn't even complete yet! The third game doesn't come out till June 6th. :huh:

Nor is Castlevania, for that matter. Where have you been while playing? Seriously...

I don't remember SO3 being a "save the world from evil destroyers" game, either, but I never played that game to completion, so. :|

...Neither is Wild ARMs (well, 4, at least) . o.o;

And DQ was the original "save the princess" game. B)

But honestly, where do you get the idea that half those are about saving the world? Are you just listing off all the RPGs you've played under that guise? Seriously. :|

This thread has hardly any discussion in it, just a lot of people wondering where you get off on complaining about the plots of RPGs. You haven't even offered any proof. :huh:
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LefseNinja · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:30 am Post subject:

Actually, SO3 pretty much is about saving the world, if not the entire universe. I've almost finished that game, and ...yeah. Don't want to spoil it for anybody though. But trust me, they hafta save the universe. Very Happy

LunaticCrow · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:13 am Post subject:

[quote="Meredianna (Meredy)"] final fantasy <3
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That explains alot. :\ You're basically making a judgement like this when you're using THAT as your prime example. Not reccomended at all when trying to roast the entire genre.

I like RPGs with their own little subplots for each character. Like Romancing SaGa (Minstrel song's Graphics kicked. ;<) and A couple of the Mana series' games.
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Meredianna · Has No Life Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 526

[quote]Nor is Castlevania, for that matter. Where have you been while playing? Seriously...[/quote]

Drac interrupts simons wedding and now he has to save his beloved. Yea it's so original. (castlevania haunted castle)

[quote]This thread has hardly any discussion in it, just a lot of people wondering where you get off on complaining about the plots of RPGs. You haven't even offered any proof. [/quote]

I'm not complaining it's just a fact Sad

idk what kind of proof you want but I made a list or rpgs, all of these rpgs have their own brand of very unique storylines ;D

[quote]I like RPGs with their own little subplots for each character. Like Romancing SaGa (Minstrel song's Graphics kicked. ;<) and A couple of the Mana series' games. [/quote]
secret of mana is about saving the world. o_o

Anyways...most of the rpg's are about saving the world or saving someone blah blah..so w/e you say about rpgs or how original they are won't change my view. :|

kthnx

Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

A'ight, so it's basically you complaining about the quality of plots in RPGs. Okei. Thread should be closed, then.
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bungakawa2000 · Still very bored Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 261

I'd like to make a nuance: most games (absolutely not limited to RPGs) aren't about saving the world: they're about destroying Evil (usually emboddied in a Supremely Evil Character). Obviously, the Evil is threatening someone/something, hence why it needs to be destroyed.

The only games I know of that aren't about destroying Evil are sport sims and apparently purpose-less puzzle games la Tetris (edited: and a handful of other titles that are sort of a genre of their own, like Harvest Moon or Chibi-Robots). I'm trying to come up with an answer, but so far I don't see how a good story-driven game (regardless of the genre) could be made without having "destroy Evil to save *insert something here, from your own life to the Universe*" as the backbone.

Heck, even MMOG, despite being more or less "unbeatable", are all about setting up a world, putting threats to it all around the place and sending the players to fight off these threats.

(ETA:[quote]I like RPGs with their own little subplots for each character. Like Romancing SaGa (Minstrel song's Graphics kicked. ;<) and A couple of the Mana series' games. [/quote]

Very true! Usually, my interest in most RPGs dwindle towards the end, when every character's sub-plot(s) are done and the only thing left to tackle is the Big Ending.)

LunaticCrow · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:09 am Post subject:

[quote="Meredianna (Meredy)"] [quote]I like RPGs with their own little subplots for each character. Like Romancing SaGa (Minstrel song's Graphics kicked. ;<) and A couple of the Mana series' games. [/quote]
secret of mana is about saving the world. o_o [/quote]
Can I get a big fuckin' DUUUURHHHHH In your direction? Okay, thanks. :\ The secret of Mana game I played (I think it was Two, mabye three) Had some pretty intresting characters with their own stories, I'd not played anymore SoM games after that, Jumped right to LoM.

Do you have something against saving the world/Destroying Evil? That's basically the basis of 3/4ths of ALL games in every genre.

Actually, bungakawa2000 put it more clearly than I. So you should probably read that post.
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bansheeblue13 · Very bored Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 198

Oh cliche rpgs are the best...*swoon* such wonderful cliche-filled stories...Saving the world oh god *mental orgasm*...but really if you don't want a cliche rpg...I think you're all out of luck...all rpgs are cliche to an extent...maybe you'd be better off reading a book...hm?

VR_Jay · Very Oldbie Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725

I wanna play an RPG where at the beggining of the game your character is all like "f**k the world" and goes back to eating potato chips. Then the world promptly explodes. the storyline is approximately 3 min long, if you count the gratuitous sex scene you can unlock by simply not selecting anything in the start menu. best RPG ever. B)

there is also a secret ending where late actor Christopher Reeve reads Mein Kampf in its entirity while being flogged by Spanish Libertarians.
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Honjetan · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject:

No way!

To get to the topic, RPG storylines do often have the 'Destroy the World', cliche, and I'm sick of it. But not all RPGs have that storyline. Some diffrientitae, don't they? The FF Series mainly has a storyline about 'Destroying the World', but that's just from my experience (Excluding X-2). Star Ocean 3 was quite hard for me. Damn Robin Wind kid wipes me out :/

I'm not typically good at RPGs, more at FPSs, but I just like playing them.

Don't know why.
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KeheiZero · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject:

X-2 pretty much was a "save the world" plot, though it didn't start like that. But then again, not many RPGs do.

The thing is, RPGs have always been about character development. And what makes people evaluate their lives more than impending death? ^_^
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Meredianna · Has No Life Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 526

[quote]DO U HAEV SOMETHNG AGANEST SAVNG TEH WORLD/DESTROYNG EVIL?!??? WTF TAHTS BASICALY TEH BASIS OF 3/4THS OF AL GMAS IN EVARY G3NR3!!!!1!1 OMG LOL[/quote]

Yea I have something against saving the world..you got a problem with that?

Sephir0th666777 · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:25 am Post subject:

[quote="KeheiZero (Craig)"] X-2 pretty much was a "get raped in the ass by suck" plot, [/quote]
Fix'd
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VR_Jay · Very Oldbie Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725

[quote="Meredianna (Meredy)"] Yea I have something against saving the world..you got a problem with that? [/quote]
Then you would be the perfect applicant for my game.

[quote]I wanna play an RPG where at the beggining of the game your character is all like "f**k the world" and goes back to eating potato chips. Then the world promptly explodes. the storyline is approximately 3 min long, if you count the gratuitous sex scene you can unlock by simply not selecting anything in the start menu. best RPG ever. Cool

there is also a secret ending where late actor Christopher Reeve reads Mein Kampf in its entirity while being flogged by Spanish Libertarians.[/quote]
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LunaticCrow · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject:

[quote="Meredianna (Meredy)"] [quote]DO U HAEV SOMETHNG AGANEST SAVNG TEH WORLD/DESTROYNG EVIL?!??? WTF TAHTS BASICALY TEH BASIS OF 3/4THS OF AL GMAS IN EVARY G3NR3!!!!1!1 OMG LOL[/quote]

Yea I have something against saving the world..you got a problem with that? [/quote]
You actually took the time to retype someone else's post? That would explain why you're complaining about something that would never ever change. Somebody needs hobbies badly. :s And I have no problem with your little PMS fest. Make a less fanbratty topic about it.

lol, final fantasy
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