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theWriter Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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It was good. Really, really sad though. Unfortuetley, most of my friends who read this book went to weed and booze anyway. I don't understand it. These books really, really speak true about society and yet some dumbasses still go to stuff they know will ruin them. How dumb. _________________ [color=red][url=http://www.fanart-central.net/user-theWriter.php]What[/url] [url=http://untitledroadway.deviantart.com/] does[/url] [url=http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1015309/] it all[/url] [url=http://www.fictionpress.com/~thetwilightpen] MEAN?[/url][/color] |
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bansheeblue13 Very bored

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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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I used to work at the IMC in my school and that was always the book that was always checked out. Never read the book though. <_< |
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flcladd1ct Member

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 45
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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I rescued that book from a dumpster several years ago and read it. Interesting, depressing in the end, but very good example of what can happen if you are unable to act responsable for yourself.
The trouble with drug use, IMO, isnt the drug itself, its the inability to act like a rational human being, but I'm not going to start a discussion on that here since its off topic.
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ketsurui Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I just finished that book, and it really creeped me out. call me innocent, but i really didn't think that the whole world of drugs was quite like that. the ending made no sense to me. i thought she quit using the drugs, cuz she made no more mention of it towards the end, but she still died anyway. I didn't understand it... |
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flcladd1ct Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="ketsurui (Kay)"] call me innocent, but i really didn't think that the whole world of drugs was quite like that. the ending made no sense to me. i thought she quit using the drugs, cuz she made no more mention of it towards the end, but she still died anyway. I didn't understand it... [/quote]
1. Dispite what your parents want you to think, the whole world of drugs [i]isnt[/i]like that
2. SHe said she was going to get clean in the end of the diary, but she ODd and died a short time after she stopped keeping the journal.
Its a depressing book. Its almost, but not quite, good anti-drug propoganda.
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ketsurui Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Oh really? it's not like that? Wow, I wish people would just tell the truth for once... My question for the end of the book is where did she get the drugs from? And after everything that happened why would she use them again? But it is a rather depressing book, i guess most books that are about people's experiences with drugs are depressing. (the ones i've read have been anyway.) |
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theWriter Very Oldbie

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 2689 Location: Big Sky Country
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]1. Dispite what your parents want you to think, the whole world of drugs isntlike that
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I'd beg to differ with you. Though the world of drugs starts out innocent enough, it always has the potential to escalate into the situation that Alice went in to. Trust me, I've been to AA and NA meetings...That IS the world of drugs. They become so desprete for a next fix they'll do anything for it, even if it means screwing someone they barely know. The prostitutes on the streets? Half of them are drug addicts. They wanna stop but they are so addicted to whatever they're on that they'll do anything for the next high or low.
Sure, it IS anti-drug propaganda...and you're right, it almost makes people rethink narcotics abuse, but it does portray how the world of drugs spirals to what that girl was in for a good section of the book.
Granted, it was dramatic...but that does happen frequently to druggies who don't try to get into rehab. _________________ [color=red][url=http://www.fanart-central.net/user-theWriter.php]What[/url] [url=http://untitledroadway.deviantart.com/] does[/url] [url=http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1015309/] it all[/url] [url=http://www.fictionpress.com/~thetwilightpen] MEAN?[/url][/color] |
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flcladd1ct Member

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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: |
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*now, before anybody goes off on me, I want to stress that I don't think drugs are by any means a toy. They aren't something to play with lightly, and definately not something that kids need to be messing with.*
Thats true, but not everybody who does any drug period ends up becoming a hopeless junkie. It depends greatly on the person and the drug they're using.
Think about it, theres a big difference between somebody who has a party and gets stoned, or has a play party with nitrus or ex (speaking of conscenting adults, of course) and the guys who have lost everything to go after heroine. Same thing with the guy that wanders around perpetually stoned and the one who's constantly snorting coke.
No, drug use isn't something to play with, or take lightly. Then again, neither is alcohol, or driving a car, or having a kid.
I was fortunate enough to grow up in a household where my parents never denied using drugs, I can remember sitting around with my mom and having her tell me about the one time she tried coke. I know how strange that probably sounds, but my parents were always bigtime hippies (yes, I know how much stronger everything is now than back in the 60s, but that's not the point). They have the same view on sex and various other "taboo" subjects.
You start making something a forbidden fruit you're really asking for trouble. I keep seeing commercials telling parents to tell their kids they never smoked pot, and I always end up thinking well, thats just great. Your kid already thinks you dont understand him, now he's going to start having experiences with drugs and *really* think you don't-you've *never* gone through what he has, after all.
Onto addiction: Powerfull physical and mental addiction. Compare it to smoking, its really, REALLY hard to quit smoking, and many people never manage to do it at all no matter whats going to happen to them if they don't. There are all sorts of things involved. Physically, bodies come to see drugs in general as part of the normal way the body is after a time, so you physically want the substance. Mentally its probably much harder. You have not only the routine you go through with your poison of choice, theres the effect it has on you as well. You are able to ignore your problems for a little while, unfortunately when you ignore them they grow and pretty soon you've got to either face them or keep running constantly.
No matter what your problems are, they're going to catch up with you eventually, the only way to really get rid of them is to decide to have the fight on your terms instead of waiting to be forced into it.
Sorry, I'm getting off on a tangent.
(ah, above is just my opinion of course) |
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