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Touzoku-joou
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(DG-sama, if this isnt anime-related enough, I guess it can be moved to General or something. But I think its relevant enough for this section. Razz )

And now for the topic.

Girls- I have to ask you. What IS the appeal of "bishies"? Everywhere I look in the Original>Male section, I see a bunch of boobless futanari, followed by a bunch of girls capslocking about how omg SUPER HAWT they are. And I sit and stare blankly, absolutely missing the appeal.
The occasional girlyboy I dont mind- Ive drawn 'em, admittedly. But it pains me to see all these people passing off these creatures as "male" and, like a bunch of little lesbians, the girls flock to them.

On a similar subject- yaoi of the type. Why do girl fawn over girlyboy yaoi, yet bitch about how much they hate yuri when they look EXACTLY THE SAME?

Just my little anime-related complaint of the day. Thanks. :3



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a well known fact that most anime fangirls are secretly lesbians, and that girly-boys are their only reprive from hiding their secret.

Congrats on being straight, Joou. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the same reason why men like futas, comeone, just lose the hair and the boobs and you've got cute guys.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought men like futas because they secretly wish they were a futa.

If I were a guy, I'd wish I had boobs too.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fist of the North Star yaoi > All other crap.

mm mm bara.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe girls like bishounens because they secretly want penis 8D


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the discussion in this thread is enough to send it flying into random. 8D

My thread was doomed from the start.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually dislike both radical sides. I've always hated men with an alarming amount of muscles (bara) and the girly males just kinda bother me a bit, but they're relatively tolerable (maybe because there's so many asian males at my school, and to be perfectly honest, a good number of them even make some of the girls jealous. We won't even discuss the figure my brother manages to maintain o_o).

Yah.

But that doesn't mean I like them overly much or support their creation or anything. The character design for Sunao from Sukisyo bothers me a little, in example, while the character design for Sora doesn't. :X
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was never much for bara myself. I do like "rugged" characters (like Auron from FFX Very Happy), but I don't really see the appeal of men of DBZ-proportions, either.

I guess, in short, I like my guys to look like regular healthy guys. No anorexia, and no steroids.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Auron was the only cool character from FFX. Everyone else gets negative 80 points.

I actually quite like the rugged look myself, but I'll be damned if I could ever draw it. XD
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering all my male OCs are young athletic-build men ages 18-24, I never get much of a chance to practice the rugged look. My anthro Entei is about as rugged as it gets for me. 8D

And I forgot to add about bara. Only awesome bara = Gotz. zomgkawaaaaaiiiiii! :DDD
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no appeal of bishies. Since I'm not attracted to guys (lesbian Italian here) at all and never fangirl over them (unless it's just a really awesome character like Van from GunxSword), I don't know how valid my opinion on bishie fangirlism is, but I gotta say that bishounens are not appealing in at all. They look like ugly anorexic male twigs crossdressing as girls. I think manly guys - just not insanely large muscles like from Bastard!!) - are more good-looking because you can actually tell the difference. It's kind of frustrating to not be able to tell whether a person is male or female. Since the short haired tom-boyish girls are really sexy to me, it makes it almost impossible to figure out whether it's male or female so it's very hard to fawn over the person. Personally, I like for girls to look like girls and guys to look like guys.

I dunno...I guess it's just aesthetical-ness-whutever preference. Some people people just prefer girliness over looking like an actual male.


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Why do girl fawn over girlyboy yaoi, yet bitch about how much they hate yuri when they look EXACTLY THE SAME?


Hm...most yaoi fangirls I know are also shoujo ai/yuri fans. But that's probably because my usual lurking spots are shoujo ai forums. I think the yaoi fangirls that bitch about yuri are annoying as hell. Probably the most annoying species of fangirl ever, period. They preach about how how being homophobic is wrong and that two guys loving eachother is ok and people need to be more open-minded, but then they go back and say how two girls loving eachother is wrong. Like stupid hypocrites. It just drives me crazy... >_>'

That's just my thoughts on bishounens and annoying fangirlies. ^^;
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mm. Most of my friends (incl. myself, although I'm not too into either anymore) who are into yaoi (the hardcore stuff, yarly) are into yuri, too.

Since this has come to light, I'd say that the problem isn't the appeal of "bishounen" but the fact that most of the people who are "into" it are really young and immature to begin with.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly! I'm also a fan a yaoi/shounen ai and shoujo ai. Though I gotta say I'm much more of a shoujo ai fan. ^^; It's always good to find yaoi fangirls who aren't hypocritic homophobic snobs, even though they're incredibly rarer than the common squeeky 13-year-old fangirl. I think the younger immature fans are more noticible because of their loudness and sheer annoyingness. As they grow older, it seems they evolve and become not as retarded as before. Though I did meet one 20-something-year-old yaoi fangirl who had a compulsive disorder or something to talk endlessless about yaoi and girl bishounens. She even did the "squeek!" sound whenever she saw a bish. I mean, if you're a freakin' adult and acting like a pre-teen, you need some serious help. I wanted to smack her so bad. o_o
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, some of them just don't grow out of it. I'll try and find her later, but there's this one person on dA who claims to be 26. Unfortunately, her age isn't the only thing she "claims".

She's a rabid Kaiba fangirl.


A 26-yr-old fanbratting over a 17-yr-old anime guy is just a liiiiitttle bit creepy.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. Whoever said that maturity comes with age needs to go f**k themselves. 8D
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It almost terrifies me that those people are legally allowed to own a gun, vote, and have many other special "mature" privileges.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A 26-yr-old fanbratting over a 17-yr-old anime guy is just a liiiiitttle bit creepy.


That technically makes a her pedophile. Or it would if that guy wasn't an anime character. xO I hope that woman is lying about her age...she's semi nearing her 30's. EW. Is all I gotta say.

And Kaiba isn't even cool. D<
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick, someone find that woman who's married to Sephiroth on the astral plane!


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Found her! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parfait (Kira) wrote:
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A 26-yr-old fanbratting over a 17-yr-old anime guy is just a liiiiitttle bit creepy.


That technically makes a her pedophile. Or it would if that guy wasn't an anime character. xO I hope that woman is lying about her age...she's semi nearing her 30's. EW. Is all I gotta say.

And Kaiba isn't even cool. D<

Hey, I like Kaiba. Before he came to Amerika. :teach:

And actually, I'm quite sure that it only ranks as pedophilia if said subject is 14 or under.

At least that's the age for shota/loli. :/ I think that's the actual age line in Canada, too. :X
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