Prison Break...of course

[fallenangel]

Yeah yeah, I know. BUT, new season, new thread, new deaths, new characters, s'all good.

Couple new topics with the premiere. Veronica, Mahone, the new dynamic, etc....

It was about time for Veronica to get it. She's made stupid decisions every step of the way, she'd have been whacked sooner than a real life Michael in prison. Her storyline was at a dead end, she'd already proven the "right" thing wasn't going to work. Yay for dead Veronica. Paul sucks at writing female characters, and it was supposed to be Sara that died but they changed their minds. I'd have taken dumb as a rock Veronica over more sappy Sara moments. Oh well.


Mahone...could go either way. He's on the verge of being too smart, to the point it's annoying, but there's already Bellick to fill the bumbling fool role. I like Fichtner, and Paul tends to write male characters well, so....should settle into a cool new character.


I probably don't need to say that letting T-Bag and Abruzzi out into the world is awesome. Same vibe, same format formula, new setting s'all. Can't imagine why anyone wouldn't like it.


Hm. Yeah. Hopefully those who watched last season will find their way back to this thread to weigh in on Veronica and Mahone and the manhunt that's just getting started. <3


ETA: "When he stole that hat and ice chest from those campers, he sounded sincere when he said "thank you" but he did threaten them. " -- random quote from someone in another community.

Uh...duh? It baffles me how many people still try to hold him and Abruzzi to normal standards of "right and wrong". If threatening people is a problem, I guaran-damn-tee the upcoming events will get some people's panties in a bunch. Neither have to play nice for the team anymore.
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[anti_sk8r]

I liked that first episode. I was watching it with my dad's new surround sound so it was real neat.

"FREEZE! I WILL GUN YOU DOWN SCOFIELD!" I lol'd for like the rest of the episode. I loved when T-Bag went and stole that stuff from the camping people XD. I can't wait for the next one.
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NOT CHANGING THIS SIGNATURE UNTIL THE RELEASE OF NINTENDO WII!...wait. Its here? OMG! SWIIT!

[fallenangel]

All I ever found in my campsite was a squirrel.

The only part that bugs me a bit is the timeframe. The escape started at 7 with an hour before count, so they were over the wall at 8. Being generous, let's say 4 hours of running, ducking, and hiding by the water. That puts them "running into the dark" at midnight with the police a few hundred yards behind.

And then a jump to at least 5 hours later. I can accept that they made it into the dark and managed to get a bit of space between them, however unlikely it would be, but five hours of running around blind...meh.

Not that I wanted to see five hours of running around either.


We get to see sad Bellick and his mommy next week.
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[loveliesbleeding]

Let me first say how very, very excited I was when this show came back on.

Except that I missed 95% of the first episode, and had to re-watch it on the computer.

And T-bag gets the best lines. Seriously.

[fallenangel]

Yes he does. Linc had a good one too, about the feet chopping.

And tomorrow there'll be even better T-Bag stuff (although obviously LJ is the main focus...still ok by me, he's been left out for a long time ).
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[loveliesbleeding]

Tonight's episode was awesome but some of the Lincon/Michael scenes were dry. Really, really, dry.

And yay for Teddy getting his hand back though.

(injection is the easiest way to dramatize death. mhm)

[fallenangel]

Dr. Bagwell is all kinds of wonderful wrong. He was charged with cruelty to animals, before all the juvie and pesky murder charges...now it's just a bigger animal.

And even though he got his hand back, it won't necessarily work right or be a long term (or even short term) solution. Unfortunately. Poor guy. T-Bag's got the second worst life ever (LJ being the worst, nothing goes right for that boy).

Know what made this episode exceptionally good, even if some parts fell a little flat? There was no Sara popping in every ten minutes to remind us what a good person she is. Even if next week...despite her punishment...she'll go back to being a "poor me" victim. Ugh.

I just don't like Dominic as an actor. It was ok when all he had to do was sit and look brooding, but the emotional scenes never work for me. Dom plays a good badass but a terrible...everything else. I think the only time I liked a Michael/Linc scene was in Riots where Linc tries to beat the crap out of T-Bag, finds Michael and hugs him. Otherwise his performance just isn't there. And Marshall/LJ is always more convincing.

I dunno, maybe it's weird that I love the show based on the characters that were never really meant to last but have grown into their own, and hate some of the principle characters (...mostly just Linc and Sara). I even kinda like Bellick now. That human factor, like when Pope told T-Bag James and James Jr. had been killed. When he was shot down by Sara in the flashback ep was another time I kinda liked him. He's a pathetic failure kinda lovable.


I do still like Tweener, but I'd rather a few more minutes of T-Bag than all his jittery scampering around. Ah well.


My school is called Otis. lolz After the guy who started the LA Times, not the one who made elevators, but I was amused anyway.
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[loveliesbleeding]

I didn't think he was charged with cruelty to animals, but i aven't read the bio in a while.

Poor LJ, his life sucks, but I'm glad he's not all sappy anymore. Though I'm kind of fond of the officer, he reminds me a lot of the officer from the Boondock Saints, except less gay.

On second though the actor might actually be the same. I should idmb that...

[fallenangel]

[quote]After multiple citations for vandalism and cruelty to animals, a ten year old Bagwell was caught attempting to burn down the home of his fourth grade teacher and was sent to juvenile hall.[/quote]

Fox did rewrite his bio between the first and second half of the first season, but his childhood stayed the same. Just the particular number of years in prison and his visitors changed from none to susan (which at the time annoyed me, but I'll excuse it for that visitation scene).

Now Marshall will at least have more to do than sit and cry... LJ's a weird character, in that he's got a whole bunch of screentime in the beginning and then just fades away for a big chunk of time. Bring back the diminutive pretty, dammit. T-Bag needs someone to molest.
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[Iblis]

I have returned to say:

ABRUZZI! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! DDDDD:

God, this sucks.

T-bag is totally skating on thin ice by not controlling himself until he's somewhere safe. What a guy!!

[loveliesbleeding]

yeah, but hey, that is sort of Teddy's MO

pfft the part where he pretends to be an army man was great. mhm.

[fallenangel]

I haven't had internet for a couple weeks.

Aaaanyway. I'm a spoiler addict, so pretty much all the T-Bag stuff so far I've already known about from reading bits of the script (the little girl/dad thing, the vet thing, and so on). I'm also 99% sure I know what they mean by "a huge twist that will change everyone's plans" in tomorrow's episode.

Abruzzi.... alas. I knew Peter didn't wanna do it anymore and episode 4 was the turning point where he'd either decide to stay or go. And as soon as Mahone started talking about a hotel, I knew he was finished. Now he'll never know Teddy's still alive.

I liked Bellick for a couple episodes, right after he lost his job and was moping around. Something about humanizing him. I think Paul [the creator] pointed it out in the dvd commentary too, that look he gets when Sara shoots him down in Brother's Keeper. Poor guy.

And...um...yeah. T-Bag still rules and Michael/Linc still falls flat most of the time thanks to Dom's painfully one dimensional range.

[quote]T-bag is totally skating on thin ice by not controlling himself until he's somewhere safe.[/quote]

With a half-assed dye job as a disguise.
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[loveliesbleeding]

i really need to catch up on my spoiler-age
last season i knew like everything and this one i haven't even started.

pfft i really, really don't want Sara to find Michael so that they can stare at each other for like five min
but we all know it's gonna happen

[fallenangel]

Yes you do. But don't worry, not much has been spoiled past the next couple episodes. Stuff through next week was spoiled a long time ago, ever since Rob dyed his hair and started making press rounds with it, followed by the script pieces leaked through bit part casting calls.

I'm a bit unsure about next week. I've read practically a quarter of the script, and all the T-Bag stuff, and the writing comes off a bit...amateur-ish. But Rob has saved worse writing in the past.

Fake gay Kellerman makes me happy. Even better that he named his fictional lover after Hale. Or maybe it's just more sick, considering what he did to the poor guy. But just like Bellick, I like the little humanizing bits, like in the car. And dammit, I like him as Lance.

Tweener works fast. On the run, but he still found time to get a little tail on the way. That's called multi-tasking. And hey, Michael technically abandoned all responsibility for him, so T-Bag needs to grab some money, grab the boy, and drive off into the sunset.


And I totally called the big surprise. (just 'cause it's in the ep6 script)


(oh lawd, Teddy in a trunk... )
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[loveliesbleeding]

Do you mean like first draft weak or like 4th grader weak?

pleh te deum

[fallenangel]

Like....adequately skilled fan who wrote herself into the show weak. And it was mostly coming from the way the Jeanette/T-Bag scene was written. But like I thought would probably happen, Rob pulled it off better than it was written, and I think it was mostly the action directions that were making it cheesy (ie "presses her thighs together" "glances at the ice pick" and so on).


I was pleased. Mm mm mm. It's not nice to tease, girly. Even though I read the script a month or two ago, I think everyone saw that one coming. He really does get the best lines. Everyone's so serious, the show needs a little comic relief (aside from Haywire). The divining rod on Michael's ass, "sorry I ain't Rainman over here", "ain't no problem that a screwdriver to her temple won't fix", "and kickin', homeboy", "I know how to play nice".... the list goes on.


I'm just sad the dysfunctional Abruzzi/Bagwell duo never got to be reunited. Would've been beautiful. And bloody.

Tweener just ain't good for nothin. Except sexing.

Mahone needs another dimension added quick or he's gonna get a bit tedious. Like Bellick. Some Abruzzi family, Bagwell incest/abuse, somethin' to humanize the guy other than the drug cop out (can't steal Sara's characterization).

Michael needs to learn to hurt people (aside from punching here and there). There would be no problem had he just let T-Bag stab Jeanette and get it all over with. But noooo. Pussy.

And. Yeah. All I can think of at the moment. It's not the same, but I can live with T-Bag/Michael bickering to make up for Abruzzi. They do snap at each other well.

Lovely.
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[loveliesbleeding]

I would have done a happy dance if John and Teddy met up again. Except probably not for fear of missing part of the show.

In any case I wonder what broke the glass in the sitting room, and what pushed her (did she get a name? I don't recall) to call the policebesides the large suspicious men in her basement.

And it wasnt really the story that killed the incest// abuse it was fanfiction. Really were all drawn to some form of tragedy. And, really, everyone knew that there was going to be some weird physiological drama going on within Mr. Murderer-Rapist just a matter of time before a filler episode/ they kill Teddy off.

[fallenangel]

Her name was/is Jeanette.

I have no problem with Teddy fiction, for the most part, because most is of surprisingly high quality. I've stopped reading almost completely now that there's more canon that goes against the fictional stories (ie in relation to the murders and such), and the number of fans has grown so that there's some fluffy "omgsohawt" garbage leaking in...

But six months ago there was just five or so core people writing cool stories, most of which still writing. And all the best tend to gravitate towards relatively untouched territory. I know of one who writes almost exclusively about Teddy/Jimmy. Another LJ. A somewhat unsettling T-Bag/Abruzzi. Maytag (my boy of choice). And so on.

Not sure where I'm going with this. I like the Bagwell backstory. It's a lot to work with. Along with the James/James Jr. storyline. And I was sold on Susan real quick, even if they had to rewrite some things for it.

Aaaaand...as for the fate of Teddy...I kinda know how long he's gonna stick around. More or less. It's only a matter of time for all of them except the brothers, and it definitely doesn't hurt that T-Bag is one of their favorite characters to write.
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[fallenangel]

Not much of a spoiler, except that the money does exist, just a promo pic. Gotta love those expressions.

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/blackleatherart/money.jpg[/img]

Oh and another of C-Note tellin' off his favorite hillbilly.

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/blackleatherart/s02e07promo1s.jpg[/img]

Got super huge versions of both...not that anyone (besides me) would want them.
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"I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall

[loveliesbleeding]

C-note looks like he is wagging his finger at t-bag