Sex, Booze, And All That Is Rock Unholy

[ragingflea002]

In light of numerous occurances here and outside these forums, I created a family dedicated to good music, and none of this nu-crap. While dorkish, we know, it's rather nice to know who you're against. For instance, I consider Led Zeppelin one of the best bands to have ever graced this earth. To others, Good Charlotte is considered equivelant to that. Good Charlotte can whine about it all, how life sucks ass and is so freakin' hard, but in the Giovanni Clan, I believe in this: why bitch about life, when you can make life BITCHIN.
Another rant on how punk pop sucks? Maybe, but to keep this family respectable, I'll offer a more constructed view on it. Consider for a moment Good Charlotte versus Led Zeppelin. Good Charlotte appeals to today's modern youth. They have the lyrics, the guitar, the bass, the drums, the ecstacy of the rock of the 21st century. Compared to Led Zeppelin. The skill Page possessed, the madness John Paul Jones and John Bonham held in their position. Robert Plant's gift of writing and voice. The insane guitar that has yet to be matched.
I'm beginning to wonder. What was it back then that stopped people from using the trademarked whining voice and whining lyrics? They had a war, racism, what stopped them? Why does it come up now? Do people really think this is as bad as it gets?
It's the teenage angst. God is dead(philisophically speaking). I'm sick of it, and those who are with me are more than welcome to join my family.
The point to it all? It's just something to take care of. By joining, you've proven you're an authority on actual ROCK. You can prove to others why their music isn't "deep". You have the power to essentially kick ass.
You must like 2 of these bands:

Guns N' Roses
Motley Crue
Rage Against the Machine
Led Zeppelin
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Velvet Revolver
Black Sabbath

The other processes are mine to decide. It's not communism.
But look at reality for a minute. Do you love to whine about your life? Do you honestly think it'll never get better? Do you love to wear black makeup and brag on how "goth" you are, or how "punk".
My message to you is this:
Fuck off and grow up. You don't have the guts to admit you're not unique? Don't think you're not like the rest of those posers out there?
Bad news, you aren't unique, and you're no different then the other 5 million angsty teens out there who think they're unique.
So, if you dispise the people who think Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Evanescence, and the other pop punk posers are good music, this family is right for you. We grace sex, drugs, booze, and all that is known as rock.
This thread, you can whine all you want. Tell me how much life sucks. Tell me I don't understand. Tell me I have no idea what you're going through. Tell me I can go die.
Tell me what you know I want to see.


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[fallenangel]

There was a kickass picture of Plant in the school display case outside the library for a month or two. Crappy black and white photocopy out of a book, but damn... Hendrix, Sabbath, VH, good display....

Yeah. Much love for Robert Plant.
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[VR_Jay]

I raise the horns in salute to you Flea, for you truely are the prophet of the second coming.
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[ragingflea002]

"I spread the word and the word is good"
-Fleacians 1:1

All of us who love the good stuff are sick of the whining, I think. I was really hoping for some pessimistic teenagers to come in here and tell me how much I don't understand Good Charlotte or Evanescence, that I don't know what they're going through.
It's called life, me buckos. Surely out of the billions of people out there, someone must know of this thing known as life? Then there are some bands that simply overcomensate. Saliva is a nu-rip off of Guns N' Roses, Hoobastank(who the HELL was the brilliant guy who came up with that name?!) is essentially supposed to be one of those lovey dovey bands with appealing lyrics("You're the reason.....", "What should I do?! I don't understand what you want from me!!")
You know, make you sound weak and pathetic so that girls are going to swarm you saying "You poor baby... Here's a free blowjob, maybe you'll feel better".
Hey now, that's productive, but why settle for that when you can go all out, make girls fall in love with your long, skillfull riffs and kick arse stagen performance(My band is considering playing onstage with our school clothes on, take off a shirt here and there, then finish the night with "Holy City", a nice song on the reality of this city ain't holy and why with a 5 minute long solo by your's truly, ended with the smashing of a guitar I don't really need, aka. Stratocaster).
Oh, and of course, lyrics make the song appealing. We're not gonna sing about our exes and how we wish they were still our girlfriends(Hell, I wrote a song about how my ex is comparable to Pontius Pilate and how I'd crucify HER) like those wimps, Maroon 5. Tough it out you girly men!
I'm also gonna murder someone the moment Billy or whoever his fuckin' name is from Good Charlotte gets a signature guitar or bass(I don't know what the Hell he plays, I just know both guitar and bass have yet to kick major arse, and never will). I have the fuckin' ghetto guitar. People look at it and practically worship it. The paint is chipped off, the pickguard is yellow, the fretboard is worn, I have my logo in it, it's MINE. If anything, I should send it to Yamaha and DEMAND they make an exact copy of it, it's so awesome.

"And the meek shall be anihilated, for they are the whining, and the whining are crap"
-Fleacians 3:16

Yes, my own personal Bible speaks to all. If you're meek n' weak, you better not start whining. You better not be whining and getting paid to whine. You BETTER not say I'm one of your influences, or else I'm gonna send someone to assassinate you. There is a moral to these preachings..
Shut up, sit up, and don't bitch about life. Let life be bitchin'.

"And they looked and they saw that it was good"
-Messages from St. Hubbins 3:21
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"The separation between spirit and logic is reasonable because spirit is defined by faith and logic forces others to think about what they have faith in."

[VR_Jay]

I hate whiney bands. I hate bands that do nothing but pine for there unrequanted love. I hate bands that are Good Charlotte. I hate bands that try to copy Eddie Vedder. The list goes on.

What do I like? Bands that make music for the sake of music. A Perfect Circle wpuld be one of these bands. Their music is art. I like bands that have a real message. RATM is #1 here. I like bands that just fuking rock. Can I hear it for Led Zeppelin?

So take your whiney-ass-bitch music back to the nursery school where it belongs. Get to know some real music little girl, because you are not an original.
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[_matt_]

someone should mention that punk is dead. :huh:

[fallenangel]

It wouldn't matter. Good Charlotte is teh punkest.

So ironic that, even original 70s punk, people turned it into a fashion and missed the entire point.
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[_matt_]

[quote]So ironic that, even original 70s punk, people turned it into a fashion and missed the entire point.[/quote]
haha! now THAT i didnt know. i usually just followed the early grunge and hard rock schticks. i made a list that compares metal chicks from back then with the emo and punk chicks of today. its quite true maybe when i feel not as lazy, ill put it up somewhere.

edit: hell, good charlotte isnt even THAT punk. hell, sum 41 is "punker" than those charlotte pussies. hell, my mom is "punker" than them too. <_<

[fallenangel]

Pick up Johnny Rotten's book ("Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" by John Lydon). It talks a lot about the entire scene and how it came about and all that. Really good stuff. Does some bitching about the fact he used safety pins to hold his clothes together and had moth eaten sweaters and torn up clothes because he was poor and had to wear them, but kids started copying him (the "punk" look) and defeating the whole point he was trying to make about dressing how you want and not caring about fashion. Interesting stories. Thirty years later, kids have gone beyond missing the point and don't even have the music.

I just never understood why kids identify with bands like Good Charlotte when what they think they're identifying with is more like the Sex Pistols. GC just fakes it. "Screw society! Now give me my money and buy my merchandise."

Er, right, go Flea's group...thing!
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[VR_Jay]

[quote]Thirty years later, kids have gone beyond missing the point and don't even have the music. [/quote]

If I wasn't really tired, I would praise what fallen said and then elaborate on it with some of my own views of how fucked up music is becoming, but then again, I'm really tired.
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[_matt_]

sex and coffee would fix that in a jiffy

[Fayore]

While I'll be the first to say I'm not very knowledgeable in rock (I do enjoy those bands Flea listed, however), I have to agree with Flea and fallen.

Everytime I see someone crowing on and on about how awesome and "punk" Avril Lavigne is, I want to freaking hit something. Hard.

She's NOT punk. She's pop. So please shut the f**k up and get lost.

But we're not talking about her, are we?

So I'll move on to Good Charlotte/Sum 41/[insert name of recent crappy band here].

I was reading at one point while my sister was watching MTV interview one of those bands. And someone called in, and said something along the lines of, "OMG your songs are so deep and good and I was going to suicide until I heard your lyrics and your songs are all that are holding me up and I dont want to die anymore thankyouthankyou your songs mean so much to me!!"

Wthf was THAT? It doesn't seem like any of those deluded children have realized that that band is only in there for money. They probably haven't experienced anything they're singing about. But people like them anyway, because they think it has meaning to their life. Really shows how widespread the debauchery is in today's generation, if you ask me, if half the world's population claims that their life is pitiful and sucky.

The song, "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" - have none of the children realized yet that that "song" is freaking ironic and is an oxymoron? Have none of them realized that these bands are nothing more than icons?

Of course not, being "suicidal" and "goth" is the "cool" thing to do now.

/rant

PS: Sorry for wasting your time just to reiterate on something someone else said, but I really, really hate today's adolescents. They keep getting more idiotic every year.
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[ThePuppetMaster]

I like all the bands listed except for RATM because I haven't heard any of their music. I play guitar and I worship Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. I agree with you guys completely. I hate this whiney "punk rock" s**t. It's not even punk! The Ramones were punk. The kids who listen to crap like "GC" Should be duct taped to a chair and be made to listen to Classic Rock blasting through speakers right by there ears. Black Sabbath, Led Zep., Jethro Tull, Iron Butterfly, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Rolling Stones, etc. Those bands are f**king Rock. Kids nowadays' call it stoneage music and s**t like that. But the 70's are considered the Golden Age of Guitar and for good reason. Rock is real music. I salute you Flea. Long live Booze and Sex and long live Rock and Roll.

[fallenangel]

In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, honey...
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[ThePuppetMaster]

We have that album on a cd and a Record and on the record, In-a-gadda-da-vida takes up one whole side lmao.

[ThePuppetMaster]

Sorry for the double Post! But yeah if I'm not accepted into the O'malley clan can I join yours Flea? Even though you are like one clan...

[ragingflea002]

Yes. It gains you access to both clans, either way. Your sig just has to reflect it.
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"The separation between spirit and logic is reasonable because spirit is defined by faith and logic forces others to think about what they have faith in."

[eclipsedmoongoddess482]

I will be the first one to admit that like two years ago, I actually used to like all that MTV crap. <_<

Thank God my Uncle F converted me and showed me the greater, actually rocking bands like Guns 'n Roses, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Rolling Stones, and my favorite Aerosmith. I realized that these people knew what punk and rock was. They actually experienced what they sung about. Like when I hear Velvet Revolver's song, "Fall to Pieces," I think its a great rock song because we all know that Scott's been through drug abuse and rehab and most likely still is going through all that. Its convincing because its true.

If GC decided to create a song like "Fall to Pieces" I'd first throw my left shoe at my TV in disgust and then listen to Guns 'n Roses for a long time to just recover from how not punk that song would be. C'mon! Can any of you really see Billy or any of those other band members on drug abuse? I mean, why do they sing about how much they hate the world when they have like 50 million teeny bobbers screaming for them? It just pisses the hell outta me.

The great thing about bands like Guns 'n Roses and Aerosmith is that they didn't care about what punk was or their image. Back then, it was all about the music and f*ck anyone who thought otherwise. Its a materialistic world we live in today boys and girls and its finally poisined the world of rock and now its a miricle if we can find any band like Led Zep or AC/DC (I can't believe I almost forgot to mention them! I practically worship AC/DC!)

In the risk or sounding very corny for a second, I say that we should just give a big "HELL YEAH!" to Flea because Flea is completely right. Instead of bitching about life, we should be making life BITCHIN'!

So thats what I think about rock today. Except for a few miricle bands like VR, music today is materialistic and fake. These people don't know what they're singing about and that needs to stop.
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[fallenangel]

There are still great bands out there, but god help them ever get a deal. If they can't appeal to 2 million preteens from day one, they're gone. No time to appeal to an audience or let the kids warm up to something new and different.

That's the only reason VR have done so well. Gn'R and STP fans gave them that platinum record. If they were just no-name guys, as awesome as they are, they'd have never gotten a deal.

And thus the industry blows. In another ten years, when all the great bands are finally dying out (and in some cases literally...Keith Richards is not human, I tell ya!), there's gonna have to be something to take their place, or it will be a very sad day indeed. Aerosmith, AC/DC, the Stones, Bowie, all of them are getting up there. And Cinderella, Ratt, Faster Pussycat, Quiet Riot, Warrant are dropping like flies in the way of losing key members or not being able to draw crowds. At least in the last few years you could go see them at clubs. (sidenote: Cinderella is headlining the Rock Never Stops tour this summer )

There will always be great underground acts that you can go see live or buy their self produced demos, but it's been a long time since there was a great Aerosmith-like act. Even the so-called "huge" acts of the 90s...how many are still around in the way AC/DC is?
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[ragingflea002]

I'm not sure, but the Crue is supposed to come to Greenville on the 20th of February. Neil already has a warrant for an arrest.
It's sounding like rock to me...
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"The separation between spirit and logic is reasonable because spirit is defined by faith and logic forces others to think about what they have faith in."