The Beatles

Beatlechick90 · Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:09 pm Post subject:

Since I'm a big fan, I figured I should probably start a topic on them. My favorite Beatle is Paul McCartney, favorite album is Sgt. Pepper's, (People love to say that album is overrated, but it's not) and my favorite song is Hey Jude.
Does anyone else like them? Or am I all alone?
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Lexar · Forum Stalker Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 1129

I went to the paul mccartney 'back in the world' tour concert in holland last year. Probably the last time any beatle ever gives a concert in holland, so it was good to be there. I grew up on beatle music, so I guess I never really had a choice wether or not to be a fan.

jhonenfreak · Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject:

[quote="Beatlechick90 (Mairi)"] favorite album is Sgt. Pepper's [/quote]
I just got that CD two days ago. ^_^

[quote]I grew up on beatle music, so I guess I never really had a choice wether or not to be a fan. [/quote]

Same here. One of my earliest childhood memories is dancing around the house singing "Yellow Submarine" as it was playing on the radio. So naturally, I have a pretty decent collection of their music.
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ragingflea002 · Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject:

I have 6 original records, including one rare original "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" and "Abbey Road". My father is a huge fan, and I like them too.
I mean, face it, they shaped rock as it is. They gave you feedback. Without feedback, Hendrix, Page, Slash, Cobain, and every other band out there wouldn't have their ferocity or power.
If Lennon, McCartney, Harrison, and Starr(he was a very basic drummer) hadn't come across the pond, we wouldn't have our favorite bands today.
And for that, Beatles, I salute you.
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jhonenfreak · Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject:

The guy who was teaching me to play guitar has a cover to an album with the original drummer. Lucky.
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Beatlechick90 · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:05 pm Post subject:

^Pete Best? Yeah, he was a crappy drummer, though, that's why they fired him.
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ragingflea002 · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject:

Well, you know, Starr never showed much potential in the Beatles. It wasn't until after they broke up some actual skill seemed to shine through.
Saw him when he same to Lehigh/Pleasant Valley in Pennsylvania. Better stuff, more skill. Not soloing, however.
"Come Together" is an awesome Beatles song. has a darker aura to it and the bass riff is easy enough to play, while sounding fairly cool.

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Rebus · Very bored Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 224

Well I'm a fan. I don't understand the mechanics behind their music very well, since I'm fairly ignorant, but I like them very much.

[quote]Well, you know, Starr never showed much potential in the Beatles. It wasn't until after they broke up some actual skill seemed to shine through. [/quote]

Well, he couldn't exactly narrate Thomas the Tank Engine [i]and[/i] be a Beatle now, could he?

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fallenangel · Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:00 pm Post subject:

Meh, I respect everything they did, but I'm no fan of the music. More a Stones person, I suppose (not that I'm a huge Stones fan either, but more than the Beatles).
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slet · Still very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 271

[quote="ragingflea002 (Flea)"] I have 6 original records, including one rare original "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" and "Abbey Road". My father is a huge fan, and I like them too.
I mean, face it, they shaped rock as it is. They gave you feedback. Without feedback, Hendrix, Page, Slash, Cobain, and every other band out there wouldn't have their ferocity or power.
If Lennon, McCartney, Harrison, and Starr(he was a very basic drummer) hadn't come across the pond, we wouldn't have our favorite bands today.
And for that, Beatles, I salute you. [/quote]
Everuone knows I'm a stonesfan and not a beatlefan, but I can be honest that they did some good things for music. But saying that they made rock music to what it is right now is just bullshit. THe influence from the Stones was just as big if not bigger on rock music. The Beatles didn't even make real rock, more something like soft rock.

Beatlechick90 · Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject:

[quote]The Beatles didn't even make real rock, more something like soft rock. [/quote]

Helter Skelter is soft rock? Revolution (fast version) is soft rock? Back in the USSR is soft rock? Polythene Pam is soft rock? Sgt Pepper's is soft rock? Baby You're A Rich Man is soft rock?

The Beatles wrote I Wanna Be Your Man for the Stones you know..
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fallenangel · Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject:

Overall the Beatles weren't very "rock". You can't argue that with a few exceptions. Doesn't make them bad or anything, just that the Stones were more of what is traditionally considered "rock", and the Beatles were lighter. It's even in the images. Mick and Keith etc vs the clean cut four...

I don't think Slet was referring to stuff like Kenny G by "soft rock".
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Beatlechick90 · Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject:

You make some good points, but I have to disagree. They did start of as a rather poppy band with She Loves You and such, but they did all kinds of music, really. Honey Pie is rag-time, Helter Skelter is probably the earliest example of heavy metal, and then you have your ballads, your trippadelic songs like Tomorrow never Knows, and regular rock songs like While My Guitar Gently Weeps. They were a rock band, but didn't always play rock music.

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fallenangel · Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject:

Eh, maybe. Still quite far on the soft side, though. The mass hysteria inducing "omg so cute!" look n' stuff. And they definitely inspired the later hard rock (Ozzy wanted to be the Beatles, after all). They were a rock band, just not "hard rock".
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slet · Still very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 271

[quote="fallenangel (fallen)"] Overall the Beatles weren't very "rock". You can't argue that with a few exceptions. Doesn't make them bad or anything, just that the Stones were more of what is traditionally considered "rock", and the Beatles were lighter. It's even in the images. Mick and Keith etc vs the clean cut four...

I don't think Slet was referring to stuff like Kenny G by "soft rock". [/quote]
exactly. Thank you.

ragingflea002 · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:02 pm Post subject:

[quote="slet (Jan Alink)"] Everuone knows I'm a stonesfan and not a beatlefan, but I can be honest that they did some good things for music. But saying that they made rock music to what it is right now is just bullshit. THe influence from the Stones was just as big if not bigger on rock music. The Beatles didn't even make real rock, more something like soft rock. [/quote]
Dude, Slet.....
The Beatles were soft at the beginning, then more or less lost their pop sound near the end. Their image also changed to where they were the long haired grungie outfitted rockers. Their sound changed, as I said, from pop to a more subtle dark imagery. In the end, they didn't have their original sound.
Almost to the point where it was "grungy".
Yes, the Beatles paved the road to a good lot of today's and yesterday's bands. Fallen listed Ozzy. Without the Beatles, the Rolling Stones may not have made it(the British wave of rock occured after the Beatles came across the pond. If they didn't come across, the albums wouldn't have sold as well and we'd be listening to more music reminiscent of Elvis than The Stones and Beatles).
So, it's not bullshit.
As for influences, AC/DC and Ramones. Ramones wanted to recreate pre Beatles and early Beatles from their youth.
They failed, but the inspiration is still there.

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Lexar · Forum Stalker Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 1129

[quote]Mick and Keith etc vs the clean cut four...[/quote]

[img]http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/british/images/vc276.jpg[/img]

[img]http://walruspage.progipark.com/ringo.jpg[/img]

ringo just OWNED the stones.

In other words, that's not exactly a fair comparison, the stones had their stages like the beatles did.

fallenangel · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject:

Image is not all in physical appearance. In their attitudes they're more rock n' roll. Mick is a pompous jackoff (condemning other bands for not being brilliant musicians Rolling eyes

) and is so far removed by now, but the Stones were still the...rougher of the two. Like even though they evolved, the Beatles were lighter. But I believe the original issue was the referring to them as "light rock" and not whether or not the Stones were more "rock" than they were. Unless someone would like to create a thread specifically for that.

I don't get why it's so wrong for them to be "light rock". Yeah, there were other genres, but on the whole they were a non-heavy rock band with various other influences.

(and current Keith beyond "pwns" Ringo Cool

)
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Lexar · Forum Stalker Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 1129

That's not exactly what I was trying to tell you. It's more the 'clean cut four' that could also apply to the stones if you look at that picture (but they would be the clean cut five Razz

)

Just chill out and sing a song about drugs, jeez....

fallenangel · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:26 pm Post subject:

And what I was trying to say was "clean cut" isn't all about appearance, either. At least not by definition over here...
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